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	<title>Comments on: Another dirty edupunk is back on the streets&#8230;</title>
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	<description>social learning, open education, and petty battles with rivals over power and money...</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/05/another-dirty-edupunk-is-back-on-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-1961</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha haha...Sid Vicious&#039;s entire graveYARD turned over when you typed that. And just when I was enjoying taking pot-shots from the outside, you go and invite me to something constructive that requires actual work. What a killjoy!
;)

Wikipedia&#039;s Illich entry is decent, actually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha haha&#8230;Sid Vicious&#8217;s entire graveYARD turned over when you typed that. And just when I was enjoying taking pot-shots from the outside, you go and invite me to something constructive that requires actual work. What a killjoy! <img src='http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Wikipedia&#8217;s Illich entry is decent, actually.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/05/another-dirty-edupunk-is-back-on-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-1962</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon Jeremy, if Sid Vicious were alive today, I bet he&#039;d be a Moodle junkie.

As an aside, I am hoping to jumpstart a moribund Wikipedia authoring project and would love it if you helped us build out an entry on Illich and/or deschooling:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_EduTech&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_EduTech&lt;/a&gt;

Please join us...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon Jeremy, if Sid Vicious were alive today, I bet he&#8217;d be a Moodle junkie.</p>
<p>As an aside, I am hoping to jumpstart a moribund Wikipedia authoring project and would love it if you helped us build out an entry on Illich and/or deschooling:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_EduTech">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_EduTech</a></p>
<p>Please join us&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/05/another-dirty-edupunk-is-back-on-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-1960</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 00:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Comeback Kid...they&#039;ve got a different Jeremy Hiebert (or did). Great shot, decent band and pretty punk overall.

But edupunk? Blech. I can&#039;t think of anything less punk than education. If there is an alternative subculture brewing in educational technology, let&#039;s call it what it is: yet another attempt to find different (cutting edge! rockin&#039;! technological!) ways to get students achieving the goals of the establishment.

If we have to endure the oxymoronic term at all, let&#039;s agree that someone like &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Illich&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Illich&lt;/a&gt;  set the bar for edupunk. If you&#039;re working in the system, trying to use the web to get students to do better on their exams, you&#039;re pulling off edutop40 -- mainstream all the way, with some educountry in rural school districts. If you&#039;re pushing the boundaries a bit and questioning the fundamentals of the systems that employ you, maybe you&#039;re getting into a bit of edujazz.

So I&#039;ve probably taken the metaphor too far, and yes, I&#039;m being a little pedantic (melodramatic?). But do you hear what I&#039;m sayin&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Comeback Kid&#8230;they&#8217;ve got a different Jeremy Hiebert (or did). Great shot, decent band and pretty punk overall.</p>
<p>But edupunk? Blech. I can&#8217;t think of anything less punk than education. If there is an alternative subculture brewing in educational technology, let&#8217;s call it what it is: yet another attempt to find different (cutting edge! rockin&#8217;! technological!) ways to get students achieving the goals of the establishment.</p>
<p>If we have to endure the oxymoronic term at all, let&#8217;s agree that someone like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Illich" rel="nofollow">Illich</a>  set the bar for edupunk. If you&#8217;re working in the system, trying to use the web to get students to do better on their exams, you&#8217;re pulling off edutop40 &#8212; mainstream all the way, with some educountry in rural school districts. If you&#8217;re pushing the boundaries a bit and questioning the fundamentals of the systems that employ you, maybe you&#8217;re getting into a bit of edujazz.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ve probably taken the metaphor too far, and yes, I&#8217;m being a little pedantic (melodramatic?). But do you hear what I&#8217;m sayin&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/05/another-dirty-edupunk-is-back-on-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-1959</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man,

I was hoping the mashedup anthem was already done.

YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOO EDUPUNK!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man,</p>
<p>I was hoping the mashedup anthem was already done.</p>
<p>YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOO EDUPUNK!</p>
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