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	<title>Comments on: Coming out of the mobile closet&#8230; into what?</title>
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	<description>social learning, open education, and petty battles with rivals over power and money...</description>
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		<title>By: Small Pieces To-Go at bavatuesdays</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/10/coming-out-of-the-mobile-closet-into-what/comment-page-1/#comment-4201</link>
		<dc:creator>Small Pieces To-Go at bavatuesdays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I would be remiss if I didn&#8217;t give a shout-out to Brian Lamb, whose post &#8220;Coming Out of the Mobile Closet&#8230;into what?&#8221; was the inspiration for my part of the presentation&#8212;and who nailed all these points already [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I would be remiss if I didn&#8217;t give a shout-out to Brian Lamb, whose post &#8220;Coming Out of the Mobile Closet&#8230;into what?&#8221; was the inspiration for my part of the presentation&#8212;and who nailed all these points already [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;When I&#8217;m drivin&#8217; free, the world&#8217;s my home&#8221; &#8230;more on going mobile.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/10/coming-out-of-the-mobile-closet-into-what/comment-page-1/#comment-2291</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;When I&#8217;m drivin&#8217; free, the world&#8217;s my home&#8221; &#8230;more on going mobile.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] since I acquired a certain much-hyped fetish object, I&#8217;ve accepted on some sort of instinctive level that mobile is indeed the future of personal [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] since I acquired a certain much-hyped fetish object, I&#8217;ve accepted on some sort of instinctive level that mobile is indeed the future of personal [...]</p>
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		<title>By: soitto&#228;&#228;net</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/10/coming-out-of-the-mobile-closet-into-what/comment-page-1/#comment-2091</link>
		<dc:creator>soitto&#228;&#228;net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice!</description>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/10/coming-out-of-the-mobile-closet-into-what/comment-page-1/#comment-2092</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mr. Equipments! I was a little worried you might be a spammer, so I deleted your URL from my database. But I hope that someone so admiring of my work will forgive me that one indulgence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mr. Equipments! I was a little worried you might be a spammer, so I deleted your URL from my database. But I hope that someone so admiring of my work will forgive me that one indulgence?</p>
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		<title>By: videoconferencing equipments</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/10/coming-out-of-the-mobile-closet-into-what/comment-page-1/#comment-2093</link>
		<dc:creator>videoconferencing equipments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the greatest post I have come across so far.I am really pleased to post my comment on this blog .I love your blog by the way, I am gonna have to add you to my list of watched blogs .Thank you for this very useful information. stored it.Thanks again and keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the greatest post I have come across so far.I am really pleased to post my comment on this blog .I love your blog by the way, I am gonna have to add you to my list of watched blogs .Thank you for this very useful information. stored it.Thanks again and keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/10/coming-out-of-the-mobile-closet-into-what/comment-page-1/#comment-2094</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They got to you too! Dammit! I&#039;m radio-ing to headquarters, situation hopeless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They got to you too! Dammit! I&#8217;m radio-ing to headquarters, situation hopeless.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Alexander</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/10/coming-out-of-the-mobile-closet-into-what/comment-page-1/#comment-2105</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took time, but perhaps we&#039;re getting to mobile learning.  Then nomadic teaching and learning.

Thanks for reporting on your experiences with the fetish-phone.

Andre&#039;s question is a good one.  It&#039;s important to refuse hype&#039;s power to cloud tech minds.  Are we talking about the iPhone dominating this market, a la iPod?  Or is it a marginal platform in use, influential in impact, as OSX?  If it&#039;s the latter, we&#039;re still working in the Balkanized world, having to look into iPhone *and* Android*s* and Crackberry and Windows Mobile.

@jim, I used that conference detail to trade on our futures markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took time, but perhaps we&#8217;re getting to mobile learning.  Then nomadic teaching and learning.</p>
<p>Thanks for reporting on your experiences with the fetish-phone.</p>
<p>Andre&#8217;s question is a good one.  It&#8217;s important to refuse hype&#8217;s power to cloud tech minds.  Are we talking about the iPhone dominating this market, a la iPod?  Or is it a marginal platform in use, influential in impact, as OSX?  If it&#8217;s the latter, we&#8217;re still working in the Balkanized world, having to look into iPhone *and* Android*s* and Crackberry and Windows Mobile.</p>
<p>@jim, I used that conference detail to trade on our futures markets.</p>
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		<title>By: D'Arcy Norman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/10/coming-out-of-the-mobile-closet-into-what/comment-page-1/#comment-2095</link>
		<dc:creator>D'Arcy Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For RSS on the iPhone (er, I&#039;m just slumming it with an iPod Touch...) I swear by Google Reader - There&#039;s native iPhone app called Byline that syncs feeds and items for offline reading, and gives a great UI to check feeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For RSS on the iPhone (er, I&#8217;m just slumming it with an iPod Touch&#8230;) I swear by Google Reader &#8211; There&#8217;s native iPhone app called Byline that syncs feeds and items for offline reading, and gives a great UI to check feeds.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/10/coming-out-of-the-mobile-closet-into-what/comment-page-1/#comment-2104</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cole - I wonder if I&#039;m being naive by thinking this is a moment to make the forceful case for the selfish, bottom-line, cost-oriented rationale of openness. How quickly could we put together a set of arguments and information that would convince the people that need to be convinced?



@Alec - I&#039;m afraid to jailbreak, for various reasons. But will give both those apps a long look.



@D&#039;Arcy - I know I can expect a few more of those.



@Andre - I have heard anecdotal reports that the percentage of wireless connection on UBC campus via handhelds is surprisingly high...



@Alan - I will follow up with a &quot;my favorite apps&quot; post, which is a huge part of the appeal. As an aside, I am deeply concerned to be called a fan boy twice in one thread. Surely I did enough Apple bashing to forestall such abuses on my own blog?



@Jon - I hope someone else can help. I switched from NNW to Google Reader in part because I now jump between five different machines - three Apple, two Linux. Google Gears means you can enjoy the benefits of RSS even when offline.



Why do I teach with Vista?



a) Actually, student projects for that course are on the open web, and we run public blogs, wikis and lots of other activities on public new media sites as part of the course. The decision to release course content is not mine because I did not author most of it (we might open it up in the future), and students in this program still prefer closed threaded course discussions (see my previous post for our efforts to develop an alternative).



b) I would prefer other approaches, but I am honestly glad to have the opportunity to teach using Vista now and than, as it informs my opinion of it with real experience. I could not have made the comparison I do above without that experience.



@Jim - your comment reminds me to explicitly state another of one of my misgivings, which is the money involved with being any kind of player in the mobile game. I am privileged to be able to play with this tool. It is a luxury even within a wealthy culture like the one I live in. And while I generally believe in going where the students are when it comes to technology, I hate to think we create a context where people feel obliged to spend stupid money before any kind of real value can be established. Yet another economic barrier to education.  We need to remember that pushing this in the current environment perpetuates yet another form of digital divide. That&#039;s a big piece of the self-loathing I am groping to articulate here.



Now if you&#039;ll excuse me, Scott Leslie just Twittered about this iPhone music app which looks completely sick: &lt;a href=&quot;http://rjdj.me/what/&quot;http://rjdj.me/what/&quot;&gt;http://rjdj.me/what/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cole &#8211; I wonder if I&#8217;m being naive by thinking this is a moment to make the forceful case for the selfish, bottom-line, cost-oriented rationale of openness. How quickly could we put together a set of arguments and information that would convince the people that need to be convinced?</p>
<p>@Alec &#8211; I&#8217;m afraid to jailbreak, for various reasons. But will give both those apps a long look.</p>
<p>@D&#8217;Arcy &#8211; I know I can expect a few more of those.</p>
<p>@Andre &#8211; I have heard anecdotal reports that the percentage of wireless connection on UBC campus via handhelds is surprisingly high&#8230;</p>
<p>@Alan &#8211; I will follow up with a &#8220;my favorite apps&#8221; post, which is a huge part of the appeal. As an aside, I am deeply concerned to be called a fan boy twice in one thread. Surely I did enough Apple bashing to forestall such abuses on my own blog?</p>
<p>@Jon &#8211; I hope someone else can help. I switched from NNW to Google Reader in part because I now jump between five different machines &#8211; three Apple, two Linux. Google Gears means you can enjoy the benefits of RSS even when offline.</p>
<p>Why do I teach with Vista?</p>
<p>a) Actually, student projects for that course are on the open web, and we run public blogs, wikis and lots of other activities on public new media sites as part of the course. The decision to release course content is not mine because I did not author most of it (we might open it up in the future), and students in this program still prefer closed threaded course discussions (see my previous post for our efforts to develop an alternative).</p>
<p>b) I would prefer other approaches, but I am honestly glad to have the opportunity to teach using Vista now and than, as it informs my opinion of it with real experience. I could not have made the comparison I do above without that experience.</p>
<p>@Jim &#8211; your comment reminds me to explicitly state another of one of my misgivings, which is the money involved with being any kind of player in the mobile game. I am privileged to be able to play with this tool. It is a luxury even within a wealthy culture like the one I live in. And while I generally believe in going where the students are when it comes to technology, I hate to think we create a context where people feel obliged to spend stupid money before any kind of real value can be established. Yet another economic barrier to education.  We need to remember that pushing this in the current environment perpetuates yet another form of digital divide. That&#8217;s a big piece of the self-loathing I am groping to articulate here.</p>
<p>Now if you&#8217;ll excuse me, Scott Leslie just Twittered about this iPhone music app which looks completely sick: <a href="http://rjdj.me/what/"http://rjdj.me/what/">http://rjdj.me/what/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/10/coming-out-of-the-mobile-closet-into-what/comment-page-1/#comment-2103</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty excited you blogged this. I saw your screen shots and discussion in the wiki for the bctech conference/discussion, on top of overhearing you mention this at the radical re-use session. I knew what you were saying about mobile learning was dead on, as you so often are. At the same time as I love the iPhone, I hate the money and investment an iPhone demands, it is crazy to think I would need to pay a few hundred books and another utility bill for a couple of years. Why?

That said, despite the fact that EDUCAUSE 2008 was and is everything I hate about a conference and edtech, I did realize that my walking around with a brand new MacBook Pro made me a dinosaur. Just about everyone I saw had a shiny iPhone or iTouch, and they seemed far happier and healthier than me. I wanted to be them, and your demonstration of what it means for WPMu and a syndication oriented framework is important and compelling for mobile learning, this device changes the game--no questions.

And I promise you that when I can afford one I will be less bitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty excited you blogged this. I saw your screen shots and discussion in the wiki for the bctech conference/discussion, on top of overhearing you mention this at the radical re-use session. I knew what you were saying about mobile learning was dead on, as you so often are. At the same time as I love the iPhone, I hate the money and investment an iPhone demands, it is crazy to think I would need to pay a few hundred books and another utility bill for a couple of years. Why?</p>
<p>That said, despite the fact that EDUCAUSE 2008 was and is everything I hate about a conference and edtech, I did realize that my walking around with a brand new MacBook Pro made me a dinosaur. Just about everyone I saw had a shiny iPhone or iTouch, and they seemed far happier and healthier than me. I wanted to be them, and your demonstration of what it means for WPMu and a syndication oriented framework is important and compelling for mobile learning, this device changes the game&#8211;no questions.</p>
<p>And I promise you that when I can afford one I will be less bitter.</p>
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