Comments on: Radical reuse: or, what happens to online learning when things fall apart? http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/10/radical-reuse-or-what-happens-to-online-learning-when-things-fall-apart/ social learning, open education, and petty battles with rivals over power and money... Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:19:51 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mike Caulfield http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/10/radical-reuse-or-what-happens-to-online-learning-when-things-fall-apart/comment-page-1/#comment-2058 Mike Caulfield Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:53:07 +0000 http://migrator.rab.olt.ubc.ca/brian2/2008/10/06/radical-reuse-or-what-happens-to-online-learning-when-things-fall-apart/#comment-2058 You know, on a serious post-apocalyptic note there was a night I always meant to blog about but never did -- Jon Udell and I were talking to a guy that does citizen science, and the conversation wandered to micro-hydro, the collapse of the ice shelves the deteriorating power grid, etc. And so the subject of that 1% chance of complete climate-precipitated societal collapse came up. And we started talking about what happens when gas is $20 a gallon? When the grid breaks down? When modern food distribution fails? I mean, fourth beer sorts of stuff. But what it came down to is in the absence of centralized hierarchical control, in that 1% apocalyptic scenario, that people have to learn to collaborate, spontaneously and organically. I like to think that we, the proto-geeks, could do that. I like to think that in some sort of disaster scenario we'd self-organize through twitter, that we'd figure out some way to optimize food production and transportation through whatever tech was left standing. Or do whatever. All very dramatic, but the point is that I think you've stumbled on a weird concoction that combines Wiley's reuse footprint idea with a realization that post apocalyptic worlds are lateral concoctions...it's not just a joke. You know, on a serious post-apocalyptic note there was a night I always meant to blog about but never did — Jon Udell and I were talking to a guy that does citizen science, and the conversation wandered to micro-hydro, the collapse of the ice shelves the deteriorating power grid, etc. And so the subject of that 1% chance of complete climate-precipitated societal collapse came up.

And we started talking about what happens when gas is $20 a gallon? When the grid breaks down? When modern food distribution fails? I mean, fourth beer sorts of stuff.

But what it came down to is in the absence of centralized hierarchical control, in that 1% apocalyptic scenario, that people have to learn to collaborate, spontaneously and organically.

I like to think that we, the proto-geeks, could do that. I like to think that in some sort of disaster scenario we’d self-organize through twitter, that we’d figure out some way to optimize food production and transportation through whatever tech was left standing. Or do whatever.

All very dramatic, but the point is that I think you’ve stumbled on a weird concoction that combines Wiley’s reuse footprint idea with a realization that post apocalyptic worlds are lateral concoctions…it’s not just a joke.

]]> By: Scott http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/10/radical-reuse-or-what-happens-to-online-learning-when-things-fall-apart/comment-page-1/#comment-2059 Scott Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:13:14 +0000 http://migrator.rab.olt.ubc.ca/brian2/2008/10/06/radical-reuse-or-what-happens-to-online-learning-when-things-fall-apart/#comment-2059 Great post. Coming from a research lab that promoted Open Access I feel very lucky to work with a group that embraces this once again. About the economy and Open Access / Open Source the recession/depression may have some positive aspects O'reilly Radar had a cool post today on that fact: http://radar.oreilly.com/2008/10/effect-of-the-depression-on-te.html Hopefully after the collapse there will be a total shift in the way people think about OA/OS . *Oct 14 is Open Access Day http://openaccessday.org/ Great post. Coming from a research lab that promoted Open Access I feel very lucky to work with a group that embraces this once again.

About the economy and Open Access / Open Source the recession/depression may have some positive aspects O’reilly Radar had a cool post today on that fact:
http://radar.oreilly.com/2008/10/effect-of-the-depression-on-te.html

Hopefully after the collapse there will be a total shift in the way people think about OA/OS .

*Oct 14 is Open Access Day
http://openaccessday.org/

]]> By: Chris L http://blogs.ubc.ca/brian/2008/10/radical-reuse-or-what-happens-to-online-learning-when-things-fall-apart/comment-page-1/#comment-2060 Chris L Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:32:54 +0000 http://migrator.rab.olt.ubc.ca/brian2/2008/10/06/radical-reuse-or-what-happens-to-online-learning-when-things-fall-apart/#comment-2060 Well, fuck 'em if they can't handle a bit of humor in trying times. If they're that far in the tank they're headed for extinction anyway! Well, fuck ‘em if they can’t handle a bit of humor in trying times. If they’re that far in the tank they’re headed for extinction anyway!

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