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	<description>Against old people, policing, renovations, and fiscal planning since 2007</description>
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		<title>By: BERNADINETillman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/2009/10/14/planning-the-unplannable/comment-page-1/#comment-19369</link>
		<dc:creator>BERNADINETillman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I opine that to receive the &lt;a href=&quot;http://bestfinance-blog.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;loan&lt;/a&gt; from banks you should present a good motivation. But, one time I have received a commercial loan, because I was willing to buy a house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I opine that to receive the <a href="http://bestfinance-blog.com" rel="nofollow">loan</a> from banks you should present a good motivation. But, one time I have received a commercial loan, because I was willing to buy a house.</p>
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		<title>By: UBC Insiders &#124; A Tunnel to Nowhere?</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/2009/10/14/planning-the-unplannable/comment-page-1/#comment-8388</link>
		<dc:creator>UBC Insiders &#124; A Tunnel to Nowhere?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 06:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When asked about all of the utilities that were moved last year, she said those would have needed to be moved anyways in order to properly service the new buildings going in there (currently only the New SUB and the Alumni Centre, and possibly some student residences.) Even if the project is cancelled, the university still does not look fondly on the current location for two reasons: a promise made to the UEL that the bus loop would only be temporary, and the designation of the land it currently sits on as the &#8220;Gage South&#8221; neighbourhood, slated for market housing. As to what that means, while Campus and Community Planning will be looking to develop the future transportation plan with all of campus (we can all hope that actually happens; it certainly didn&#8217;t with the underground bus loop), a rather large, easily accessible and relatively central location would have to be found if a new bus loop were to be built. In the land use plans laid out in the current version of the campus plan, that certainly isn&#8217;t there (and this is why we should all listen to Darren Peets when he says planning is a total crapshoot). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When asked about all of the utilities that were moved last year, she said those would have needed to be moved anyways in order to properly service the new buildings going in there (currently only the New SUB and the Alumni Centre, and possibly some student residences.) Even if the project is cancelled, the university still does not look fondly on the current location for two reasons: a promise made to the UEL that the bus loop would only be temporary, and the designation of the land it currently sits on as the &#8220;Gage South&#8221; neighbourhood, slated for market housing. As to what that means, while Campus and Community Planning will be looking to develop the future transportation plan with all of campus (we can all hope that actually happens; it certainly didn&#8217;t with the underground bus loop), a rather large, easily accessible and relatively central location would have to be found if a new bus loop were to be built. In the land use plans laid out in the current version of the campus plan, that certainly isn&#8217;t there (and this is why we should all listen to Darren Peets when he says planning is a total crapshoot). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: STUDENT RESISTANCE, the UBC FARM MOVEMENT and the UNDERGROUND BUS-LOOP FIASCO &#171; UBC Student Media</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/2009/10/14/planning-the-unplannable/comment-page-1/#comment-3971</link>
		<dc:creator>STUDENT RESISTANCE, the UBC FARM MOVEMENT and the UNDERGROUND BUS-LOOP FIASCO &#171; UBC Student Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Unplannable. Alex Lougheed, ed.  In UBC Insiders, online,            Oct. 14, 2009. http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/2009/10/14/planning-the-unplannable/ 2008a UBC Bus Terminal: Unresolved Problems. Aug. 1st 2008. Facebook note.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Unplannable. Alex Lougheed, ed.  In UBC Insiders, online,            Oct. 14, 2009. <a href="http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/2009/10/14/planning-the-unplannable/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/2009/10/14/planning-the-unplannable/</a> 2008a UBC Bus Terminal: Unresolved Problems. Aug. 1st 2008. Facebook note.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: STUDENT RESISTANCE, the UBC FARM MOVEMENT and the UNDERGROUND BUS-LOOP FIASCO &#171; Environmental Communications</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/2009/10/14/planning-the-unplannable/comment-page-1/#comment-3959</link>
		<dc:creator>STUDENT RESISTANCE, the UBC FARM MOVEMENT and the UNDERGROUND BUS-LOOP FIASCO &#171; Environmental Communications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Unplannable. Alex Lougheed, ed.  In UBC Insiders, online,            Oct. 14, 2009. http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/2009/10/14/planning-the-unplannable/ 2008a UBC Bus Terminal: Unresolved Problems. Aug. 1st 2008. Facebook note.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Unplannable. Alex Lougheed, ed.  In UBC Insiders, online,            Oct. 14, 2009. <a href="http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/2009/10/14/planning-the-unplannable/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/2009/10/14/planning-the-unplannable/</a> 2008a UBC Bus Terminal: Unresolved Problems. Aug. 1st 2008. Facebook note.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: F. Hydrant</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/2009/10/14/planning-the-unplannable/comment-page-1/#comment-3940</link>
		<dc:creator>F. Hydrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two recent ones that I can think of are engineering/computer science (&quot;Double the Opportunity&quot;) and medical school.  The former resulted in Kaiser, Dempster and the ICIS extension onto the back of CICSR, among other things.  The latter resulted in the Life Sciences Centre.  Both were literally doubling the number of graduates in a roughly 5-year period.  Both were completed within the last ~3-4 years.  The addition of a medical school at the Kelowna campus puts significant additional demands on the LSC, where the students spend their first year, but I don&#039;t know how that was dealt with.

These are mentioned on the Ministry of Advanced Education&#039;s website if you want to check:  http://www.aved.gov.bc.ca/organization/uib/welcome.htm

--Darren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two recent ones that I can think of are engineering/computer science (&#8220;Double the Opportunity&#8221;) and medical school.  The former resulted in Kaiser, Dempster and the ICIS extension onto the back of CICSR, among other things.  The latter resulted in the Life Sciences Centre.  Both were literally doubling the number of graduates in a roughly 5-year period.  Both were completed within the last ~3-4 years.  The addition of a medical school at the Kelowna campus puts significant additional demands on the LSC, where the students spend their first year, but I don&#8217;t know how that was dealt with.</p>
<p>These are mentioned on the Ministry of Advanced Education&#8217;s website if you want to check:  <a href="http://www.aved.gov.bc.ca/organization/uib/welcome.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.aved.gov.bc.ca/organization/uib/welcome.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8211;Darren</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/2009/10/14/planning-the-unplannable/comment-page-1/#comment-3937</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped reading this article at &quot;The government will decide on a whim that it needs to double the number of people graduating in a specific field within about 4 years&quot;.

Does Dr. Peets have any references or examples with which to back this allegation up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped reading this article at &#8220;The government will decide on a whim that it needs to double the number of people graduating in a specific field within about 4 years&#8221;.</p>
<p>Does Dr. Peets have any references or examples with which to back this allegation up?</p>
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		<title>By: A Tunnel to Nowhere? : UBC Insiders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/2009/10/14/planning-the-unplannable/comment-page-1/#comment-3931</link>
		<dc:creator>A Tunnel to Nowhere? : UBC Insiders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When asked about all of the utilities that were moved last year, she said those would have needed to be moved anyways in order to properly service the new buildings going in there (currently only the New SUB and the Alumni Centre, and possibly some student residences.) Even if the project is cancelled, the university still does not look fondly on the current location for two reasons: a promise made to the UEL that the bus loop would only be temporary, and the designation of the land it currently sits on as the &#8220;Gage South&#8221; neighbourhood, slated for market housing. As to what that means, while Campus and Community Planning will be looking to develop the future transportation plan with all of campus (we can all hope that actually happens; it certainly didn&#8217;t with the underground bus loop), a rather large, easily accessible and relatively central location would have to be found if a new bus loop were to be built. In the land use plans laid out in the current version of the campus plan, that certainly isn&#8217;t there (and this is why we should all listen to Darren Peets when he says planning is a total crapshoot). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When asked about all of the utilities that were moved last year, she said those would have needed to be moved anyways in order to properly service the new buildings going in there (currently only the New SUB and the Alumni Centre, and possibly some student residences.) Even if the project is cancelled, the university still does not look fondly on the current location for two reasons: a promise made to the UEL that the bus loop would only be temporary, and the designation of the land it currently sits on as the &#8220;Gage South&#8221; neighbourhood, slated for market housing. As to what that means, while Campus and Community Planning will be looking to develop the future transportation plan with all of campus (we can all hope that actually happens; it certainly didn&#8217;t with the underground bus loop), a rather large, easily accessible and relatively central location would have to be found if a new bus loop were to be built. In the land use plans laid out in the current version of the campus plan, that certainly isn&#8217;t there (and this is why we should all listen to Darren Peets when he says planning is a total crapshoot). [...]</p>
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