{"id":1208,"date":"2013-03-21T16:48:27","date_gmt":"2013-03-21T23:48:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/chendricks\/?p=1208"},"modified":"2013-03-22T02:35:59","modified_gmt":"2013-03-22T09:35:59","slug":"why-care-if-attributed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/chendricks\/2013\/03\/21\/why-care-if-attributed\/","title":{"rendered":"Why do I care if I’m attributed?"},"content":{"rendered":"

During one of the Twitter chats for the ETMOOC<\/a><\/span> topic on “The Open Movement \u2013 Open Access, OERs & Future of Ed,” Pat Lockley Tweeted this:<\/span><\/p>\n

#etmchat<\/a> – most of github is now unlicensed, I think we are moving into a post-license world<\/p>\n

\u2014 patlockley (@patlockley) March 7, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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We were talking about sharing our educational or other work, why some people find this difficult, the difference between “open access” and things being open in a wider sense, and more.
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During the chat Pat’s<\/span> Tweet<\/span> kind of just went past me, but as I went back to the #etmchat Tweets for that day to add some to my Storify board on my ETMOOC experience, I came across it again and became curious as to what he meant. Thus started a fairly long conversation about copyright, licenses, public domain, and more. You can see it all<\/span> here.<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n

There’s a lot I’d like to think about further in this conversation, but what is really standing out for me at the moment is this:<\/span><\/p>\n

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@patlockley<\/a> Definitely better understood. Now wondering why ppl might want to be attributed. Why do I have CC-BY on my blog? Why do I care?<\/p>\n

\u2014 Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) March 11, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

@patlockley<\/a> Beyond pragmatic reason (if I can show influence of my work I have better chance of promotion), I wonder if there’s something… \u2014 Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) March 11, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

@patlockley<\/a> \u2026about wanting to just be acknowledged by others as an author\/creator that’s important. Ego? \u2014 Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) March 11, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

@clhendricksbc<\/a> ego perhaps a step far – nice to know people like your stuff, but then is attribution enough or explicit recognition<\/p>\n

\u2014 patlockley (@patlockley) March 11, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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Why am I using a CC-BY<\/a><\/span> license on my work? Why do I care if I’m attributed when someone uses something from my blog, or some “open educational resource” I create? Pat brought up an important point:<\/span><\/p>\n

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@clhendricksbc<\/a> yes, but you ask if whether public domain is not a better option<\/p>\n

\u2014 patlockley (@patlockley) March 11, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

@patlockley<\/a> So then no need for attribution or anything. Easy, but why might it be better than CC-BY, e.g.? I mean, philosophically.<\/p>\n

\u2014 Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) March 11, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

@clhendricksbc<\/a> yes, why make it open – to be reused or to be attributed for reuse. Public domain is more understood as a term?<\/p>\n

\u2014 patlockley (@patlockley) March 11, 2013<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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Why not make one’s work public domain instead of using something like CC-BY? In the current legal climate, apparently it’s rather complicated: some places, like Canada and the U.S. (and probably other places too–I haven’t done enough research to list them), grant copyright simply through creating a work, and this may not actually be easy (or possible?) to give up (see, e.g., <\/span>re: the U.S., Wikipedia on granting work into the public domain<\/a><\/span>, and this post<\/a><\/span> from the Public Domain Sherpa, and the last section of this page<\/a><\/span> from Copyfree<\/a><\/span>). One can, though, try to state as clearly as possible that one gives up all copyright and related rights to whatever extent allowed by law, and if not allowed, to give a license to anyone to use the work however they wish, without requirement of attribution. That’s what Creative Commons CC0<\/a><\/span> is meant to do. Copyfree has a list of various licenses that conform to their standard <\/a><\/span>of “free use,” “free distribution,” free modification and derivation,” “free combination” and “universal application,” and CC0 is one of them (as is the Nietzsche public license<\/a><\/span>, which is rather a personal favourite).
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So, getting back to the original question and modifying it a bit: why not just use CC0 or something similar, thus releasing one’s work for any use by anyone, without attribution? Why care about attribution?<\/span><\/p>\n

As Pat Lockley noted, it would be good to know that others find my work useful and that they reuse, repurpose and\/or rework it. This would be helpful, if for no other reason than to validate for yourself what you’re doing. It could help you do more of it, perhaps. Knowing this would probably also be a way to improve one’s work through finding out what others have done with it. Not to mention it could be a way to potentially connect with others, which might even lead to collaborations.
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In my own situation, on a pragmatic level, if I could discover and document how others have used my work, this could provide evidence that what I am doing has influence in the wider educational community, which might be one of several ways to support a claim of “educational leadership” or “distinction in the field of teaching and learning” <\/a><\/span>for the new Professor of Teaching rank<\/a> <\/span>at UBC.
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So yes, there are plenty of good reasons to be able to know what others are doing with your work.<\/span><\/p>\n

But all of this requires what is NOT happening with CC-BY (and possibly not with other licenses…I haven’t done enough research to specify): notifying the attributed person that their work is being reused. If another blog links to your blog, you may get a pingback (maybe not; depends on the settings of your blog and the other blog, I think). And it’s a good practice to let other people know when you’ve used their work, if there’s an easy way to do it (such as leaving a comment on a photo posted on Flickr). I try to do that, but too often I forget (I’m working on this).
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As noted towards the end of the Storified conversation with Pat, what’s missing, in order to get the benefits noted above, is some systematic way to notify people as to how you’ve used their work. I don’t even know how such a thing could work–the technological hurdles seem huge–but theoretically, it seems a good idea. Now, like any such things, one wouldn’t have to choose such a license (an attribution + notification license?), but for some it would provide a useful way to not just be attributed, but to know what uses their work is being put to. Perhaps it is too difficult\/too much of a hassle to bother with. But it’s an intriguing idea.<\/span><\/p>\n

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“Attribution,” by fotogail (see below)<\/p><\/div>\n

Of course, there are good arguments for making work as free as possible, without restrictions on what you have to do once you’ve accessed it–like attributing the author\/creator, or telling him\/her what you’re doing with it. So I’m undecided whether I, personally, would want to require more of the people using my work than just attribution. I might not even recommend this to others. But some might want to do it, and it could be useful.<\/span><\/p>\n

But until and unless something like this happens, I’<\/span>m back to my original question: Why do I care <\/span>about attribution? If, for the most part, I won’t get the above benefits, what am I getting out of knowing that perhaps, somewhere out there, is a piece of work with my name attached? <\/span><\/p>\n

One might think that it’s kind of like citation in academia; except again, citations are tracked whereas use of my CC-BY work (unless it’s a publication) is not. So really, it’s just a sense that other people know I created something. Why should I care about this?<\/span><\/p>\n

Add to this the point that much of my work is not, perhaps, really “mine” in a deep sense because it is a culmination of so many other influences, work by so many other people that I have read or otherwise interacted with, and the question becomes even more pressing.<\/span><\/p>\n

Okay, maybe it will come back to me at some point; maybe I’ll discover my work being used somewhere with my name, and then I can realize some of the good things noted previously. But maybe not (and perhaps most likely not). Or perhaps someone will find something with my name on it and decide to connect with me–thus leading to a connection through effort on someone else’s part rather than mine. These things might<\/em> happen, but is that enough to require attribution for my work? I’m not yet sure.
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I don’t have an answer, and you can’t answer for me of course, but maybe you have some ideas on why asking others to attribute one’s work might be a good idea, rather than just letting it go free into the wild. I’m thinking not so much for people who have to rely on their work to make a living, to make money off of it, but for people like me who are getting a salary from a university and could just share their blog writings, their photos, their OERs for free and without restrictions. <\/span><\/p>\n

Help me out here?<\/span><\/p>\n

Image credit:<\/strong><\/span> “Attribution,”<\/span>\u00a0<\/a> flickr photo<\/span> (CC-BY)<\/a><\/span> shared by<\/span> fotogail<\/a><\/span>
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