{"id":463,"date":"2012-12-10T22:04:18","date_gmt":"2012-12-11T05:04:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/chendricks\/?p=463"},"modified":"2013-02-24T20:36:29","modified_gmt":"2013-02-25T03:36:29","slug":"moocs-in-humanities-too-big","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/chendricks\/2012\/12\/10\/moocs-in-humanities-too-big\/","title":{"rendered":"MOOCs in Humanities: too massive?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">I recently tweeted about an article I heard about from <em>The Guardian<\/em> (newspaper) higher education twitter feed:<\/span> <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a title=\"Guardian Higher Ed twitter profile\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/GdnHigherEd\" target=\"_blank\">@GdnHigherEd<\/a><\/span>: &#8220;<a title=\"Could online courses be the death of humanities? (article)\" href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/higher-education-network\/blog\/2012\/dec\/07\/online-course-death-of-humanities?CMP=twt_gu\" target=\"_blank\">Could<\/a><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a title=\"Could online courses be the death of humanities? (article)\" href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/higher-education-network\/blog\/2012\/dec\/07\/online-course-death-of-humanities?CMP=twt_gu\" target=\"_blank\"> online courses be the death of the humanities?<\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">&#8221; by Aur\u00e9lien Mondon and Gerhard Hoffstaedter, co-founders of<\/span> <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a title=\"Melbourne Free University website\" href=\"http:\/\/melbournefreeuniversity.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Melbourne Free University<\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">. I want to discuss that article briefly, and then give some thoughts on the benefits and drawbacks of scale in MOOCs (Massive Open Online Courses).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">In the article noted above, Mondon and Hoffstaedter are commenting on a previous article, &#8220;<\/span><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a title=\"Cadwalladr article in the Observer on online free learning and the end of the university\" href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/education\/2012\/nov\/11\/online-free-learning-end-of-university\" target=\"_blank\">Do online courses spell the end for the traditional university?<\/a>,<\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">&#8221; by Carole Cadwalladr, in<em> The Observer.\u00a0<\/em>There, Cadwalladr discusses how open education, and free online courses, could have an impact on traditional university education. Why pay thousands of dollars when you can get the same content taught by the same professors for free? Of course, you don&#8217;t get degrees or credit (yet), but for those who just want to learn something, MOOCs are likely a better option than signing up for a face-to-face class that you have to pay for.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">In their response to this article, Mondon and Hoffstaedter suggest that <strong>the expansion of MOOCs could spell the death of humanities, specifically.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">In part, this is because if students start taking more free courses online, and fewer in traditional university formats that they have to pay for, then the humanities will likely suffer more than STEM disciplines, for example. This is in part because humanities depend on student enrolments at universities (so their faculty positions can exist and give them time and money to do research) and government grants, whereas STEM disciplines might be able to find other funding for their work, such as through industry partners.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Mondon and Hoffstaedter&#8217;s main concern is with the movement towards opening up education to free market forces:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">we are &#8230; extremely wary of the consequences this potentially emancipatory project could have on knowledge as a whole if harnessed by market forces that enter it into competition with other forms of academic knowledge. If more corporations decide to support the extension of free online projects to the point where their degrees become equivalent to that of traditional universities, it could lead to the further withdrawal of state funding from education and the complete abandonment of education to laissez-faire politics.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">For my purposes here, the most salient of the author&#8217;s points is that <strong>MOOCs are not terribly good (so far?) at providing &#8220;the central element of higher education learning: the development of critical abilities and the potential for students to express their own original analytical skills.&#8221;<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Can MOOCs provide a good forum for developing and practicing critical thinking, speaking and writing skills? Are they just as good as face-to-face courses for that?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Of course, that&#8217;s a huge question, and<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">to<\/span> <span style=\"color: #333333;\">answer would require that one define precisely what one means by &#8220;critical abilities.&#8221; What I&#8217;m thinking in that regard for the purpose of this post are things like: the ability to question and criticize claims and arguments and the ability to present one&#8217;s own claims and back them up with arguments. These, I believe, are furthered by small-ish courses that allow for frequent discussion between students and professors, plenty of opportunities to practice writing arguments, and quick formative feedback by profs on students&#8217; oral and written arguments to help improve them. Which of these can MOOCs supply well?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">I decided to join a Coursera course from Duke University calle<\/span>d &#8220;<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a title=\"&quot;Think Again&quot; course site on Coursera\" href=\"https:\/\/www.coursera.org\/course\/thinkagain\" target=\"_blank\">Think Again: How to Reason and Argue,<\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #333333;\">&#8221; by Walter Sinott-Armstrong and Ram Neta, to get a taste of what the MOOC experience is like so as to better answer these questions. There are very few Humanities courses on Coursera, compared to other fields (is this telling?), and I figured this was one of the ones that could likely have a &#8220;critical abilities&#8221; aspect to it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>MOOCs and critical abilities: the upsides<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">The most obvious benefit of MOOCs in terms of developing critical abilities (in the sense discussed above) is <strong>the wide range of students from different places, different cultures, different professions, different stages of life.<\/strong>\u00a0 Watching a discussion (on a discussion board) by such a varied group of people is very, very different than watching and listening to a face-to-face discussion in a university classroom. The views expressed, the sorts of arguments given, the way language is used, all make one realize just what a small community a university classroom is. And I don&#8217;t mean just physically small&#8211;I mean that it&#8217;s small in the sense that so many of the people in the room are very similar, for all their diversity. They have all gone through at least a similar enough sort of education to be allowed entry into that university, and they share the university culture to a great extent. When you open up discussions to the wider world, you really get much more diversity in terms of views and perspectives. And that is valuable for thinking critically, especially about one&#8217;s own entrenched views and ways of thinking.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">I was impressed by the way that <strong>the discussions seemed to stay mostly on topic,<\/strong> which is important to learning how to engage in a critical discussion well. The boards are apparently moderated (there is a claim to that effect on the main course page), but I think what that mostly means is that disruptive or offensive posts are removed (I&#8217;ve seen quite a number of &#8220;this post has been removed&#8221; notices on the boards). Even without a professor or other facilitator chiming in to steer people &#8220;back on topic,&#8221; the discussion threads are mostly useful, interesting posts on the topic at hand. Partly this may be because users can &#8220;vote&#8221; posts up or down, so the posts with the highest votes go on top. The course facilitators also worked to create more focused discussion boards by breaking them down according to sub-parts within the lectures, associated with each exercise set. So far, (two weeks in), most people are posting on topic.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">The value of having pre-recorded lectures is, among other things, that <strong>students can control the lecture in several ways.<\/strong> They stop the lecture if they need to and not miss anything, they can go back over something if they didn&#8217;t get it the first time, and they can watch the lectures in small segments if that&#8217;s all they have time for. In the Coursera course I&#8217;m part of, the lectures are about an hour long, but they are broken up into smaller segments of 7-10 minutes or so. Each segment has a set of exercises to do afterwards to test whether you&#8217;ve gotten the main points or not, and a separate discussion board for the segment. Students can take as long as they like on each segment by playing and replaying, or go forward past some parts if they choose. The idea of being able to stop after a few minutes and go over main points through the exercises is a good one that one could use in face-to-face courses as well, perhaps through clickers or students holding up notecard answers to T\/F or multiple-choice questions. But, as noted below, unlike in a face-to-face class, the answers to such questions cannot be used by the teacher to adjust later segments of the course.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>The downsides<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">The point about scale, above, also has a downside that is obvious: the thousands upon thousands of people in these courses makes <strong>discussion nearly impossible to keep up with.<\/strong> It feels unwieldy. I can scroll for a very long time just to get through the comments on one post in order to get down to the next post. And repeat. I honestly don&#8217;t know how others can keep up with some of these discussion topics when there are so many comments. By the time I could add something myself I would have to have read for at least an hour to catch up and feel like I have something new to contribute. Even then, I couldn&#8217;t possibly digest that much information. I guess the best thing is to pick and choose topics, and get in early before the list of comments grows so long that you can&#8217;t contribute anymore. Everyone can have a say in a MOOC, unlike in large class of students in a traditional context, but that very capacity means others simply can&#8217;t keep up with all the comments, even on a single topic. I feel like I&#8217;ll never be caught up enough to participate well, which is off-putting, and quite different from my experience discussing in smaller groups.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">In addition, I find there is something quite useful about being able to have a synchronous give-and-take discussion that just doesn&#8217;t work the same way in <strong>asynchronous discussion boards.<\/strong> Misunderstandings can be cleared up quickly, people are often more willing to share tentative thoughts when they&#8217;re not written down, and you can communicate a lot through body language as well as words. In addition, there is something important about everyone being in the same space, physical and mental (more or less) at the same time, discussing the same things. I think discussions can be more productive when numerous people are in the &#8220;zone&#8221; together (for lack of a better term), as they can feed off of each other and new ideas can be developed. I don&#8217;t have data to support this, but it just feels very different when discussing in an asynchronous environment, in which one can&#8217;t get a response to one&#8217;s ideas right away, when one is in the moment and focusing on that topic. By the time someone responds to one&#8217;s post, one may have moved on to other thoughts and no longer be thinking deeply about that topic.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Coursera provides <strong>&#8220;google hangouts&#8221;<\/strong> for the purpose of providing in-person discussions, which allows up to 10 people to chat together through webcams. I haven&#8217;t tried this yet, because I&#8217;m not taking the course seriously enough to contribute much of use to those who are! But some have complained on the forums that others in the hangouts are rude, ignore them, or are otherwise providing a bad experience for other users. The problem, of course, is that there is no moderator to ensure people are welcomed, to make sure no one is dominating the conversation too much, and to ensure the participants treat each other with respect. Others report good experiences with the hangouts, so it&#8217;s not all bad, of course; but it just takes one bad experience to make someone wary of ever trying such a thing again (and one report of a bad experience to make many, many other students wary of ever trying it in the first place).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">There is clearly no room for something like <strong>&#8220;<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a title=\"A page explaining Just in Time Teaching; focused on Geosciences\" href=\"http:\/\/serc.carleton.edu\/introgeo\/justintime\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">just in time teaching<\/a><\/span>,&#8221;<\/strong> where you tailor what happens during class to what students need or want&#8211;what they are struggling with at the moment, what they are most interested in, etc. Students in this Coursera course can&#8217;t email the professors to ask questions (can you imagine trying to answer tens of thousands of emails?), so they have to ask questions, get clarifications, etc., from their fellow students. This may work just fine (it seems to, for this course, for the most part), but the lectures and homework\/quizzes can&#8217;t change as a result of what students need more or less of. It&#8217;s already done beforehand (as it needs to be, since it&#8217;s so much work to put a course like this together). One thing students can do, of course, is to just pick and choose which parts of the course they want to work on and skip others; but that won&#8217;t help if what they want is to look at other kinds of topics or issues. Granted, this can&#8217;t always be done on a grand scale with face-to-face courses, either, since large changes are difficult there as well; but one can prepare for certain sub-parts of it differently for the next week, or ask students to research and discuss different topics for a later class, etc. This can be useful for students&#8217; critical abilities in that they are able to become more deeply engaged in and connected with the course, and will be more likely to participate in its various aspects thereby. All of this is true for regular online teaching, though, not just MOOCs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline; color: #666699;\"><em>Update, Dec. 12:<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\"><em>I just read<\/em><\/span> <a title=\"Edcetera blog post on humanities MOOC\" href=\"http:\/\/edcetera.rafter.com\/2-profs-75000-students-4-ways-to-make-the-humanities-mooc-work\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">a blog post<\/span><\/a> <span style=\"color: #666699;\"><em>explaining how one professor in a Coursera course does respond to students&#8217; ongoing needs and desires in the course, by uploading new videos each week. So it&#8217;s possible to do something like &#8220;just in time teaching&#8221; with Moocs.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Another important downside is that such large courses really are most conducive to <strong>assessments that focus on right-or-wrong answers<\/strong>, such as true\/talse questions and multiple-choice questions. That is what the &#8220;Think Again&#8221; course uses for exercises and quizzes. I&#8217;m not sure what else one could do, really. How could you ask students to create their own written arguments and essays and have these marked by a professor or TA with helpful feedback, when you have over 80,000 students (as this course does)? The facilitators of this course do ask students to create arguments on a particular topic, and then other students are asked to evaluate and discuss those on the forums. That&#8217;s going pretty well, I think&#8211;crowdsourcing can, indeed, get you some helpful feedback. But you probably wouldn&#8217;t be able to write a whole essay of 2-3 pages or more and get very many others to give detailed feedback on it. If you got a few to do it, the feedback might not be very helpful (providing useful feedback is a difficult art!) and you wouldn&#8217;t get the &#8220;upvote&#8221; or &#8220;downvote&#8221; system working to select the best feedback with only a few people reading papers carefully.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\"><em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Update Dec. 12<\/span>:<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\"><em>Of course, one could try to devise a peer marking\/feedback system where engaging in peer marking is required for the course. Then you might be able to get the &#8220;upvote\/downvote&#8221; system working with small groups of peer markers. Still, marking and providing feedback on essays is so complicated and difficult to do well that students are likely to get very different feedback from different peers. And then perhaps the &#8220;upvote\/downvote&#8221; system would not judge well between them, given the small group involved.\u00a0<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\"><em>Here&#8217;s another thing I hadn&#8217;t thought of re: peer marking when I first wrote this blog post, but should have:<\/em><\/span> <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a title=\"Inside Higher Ed article on peer evaluation in Coursera MOOC\" href=\"http:\/\/www.insidehighered.com\/news\/2012\/08\/30\/first-humanities-mooc-professors-road-test-courseras-peer-grading-model\" target=\"_blank\">a post from <\/a><\/span><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a title=\"Inside Higher Ed article on peer evaluation in Coursera MOOC\" href=\"http:\/\/www.insidehighered.com\/news\/2012\/08\/30\/first-humanities-mooc-professors-road-test-courseras-peer-grading-model\" target=\"_blank\">Inside Higher Ed<\/a><\/span><em> t<span style=\"color: #666699;\">alks about language differences and peer marking.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Implications for humanities<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">I think there&#8217;s still a lot to be valued in face-to-face teaching and learning, and those who recognize points like the ones above won&#8217;t give that sort of experience up. The problem is that sometimes those &#8220;softer&#8221; skills, like the ability to read, discuss, and write critically, may not be recognized as valuable. The idea that learning means memorizing content and passing quizzes and exams where you just demonstrate your knowledge about that content is widespread, and doesn&#8217;t really reflect a lot of what many of us hope to teach in disciplines like philosophy. I hope my students are able to come out of my classes with better abilities to analyze and criticize arguments, to discuss arguments with others in a respectful way that helps improve everyone&#8217;s thinking, and to be able to write arguments more clearly and strongly. The concepts behind argumentation can be taught, as is being done in this Coursera course, but the practice of it and feedback on that practice are harder to do well in a MOOC, I think. And if those aren&#8217;t recognized as valuable, then people may, indeed, think MOOCs can replace face-to-face courses with results that are just as good.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Maybe they could someday, but at this point I&#8217;m thinking &#8230; not yet.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Your thoughts<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Still, I&#8217;ve probably missed quite a bit that is useful or problematic about MOOCs and critical abilities. What have I missed? What emerging or new technologies could help MOOCs addressed some of the issues I&#8217;ve raised?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I recently tweeted about an article I heard about from The Guardian (newspaper) higher education twitter feed: @GdnHigherEd: &#8220;Could online courses be the death of the humanities?&#8221; by Aur\u00e9lien Mondon and Gerhard Hoffstaedter, co-founders of Melbourne Free University. 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