{"id":3501,"date":"2025-04-29T09:53:36","date_gmt":"2025-04-29T16:53:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/?p=3501"},"modified":"2025-04-29T10:25:46","modified_gmt":"2025-04-29T17:25:46","slug":"edst-research-day-keynote-reflections-from-dr-taylor-webb-on-education-in-the-algorithmic-condition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/2025\/04\/29\/edst-research-day-keynote-reflections-from-dr-taylor-webb-on-education-in-the-algorithmic-condition\/","title":{"rendered":"EDST Research Day: Keynote Reflections from Dr. Taylor Webb on \u201cEducation in the Algorithmic Condition\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div style=\"height:100px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At EDST Research Day 2025, keynote speaker <strong>Dr. Taylor Webb<\/strong> delivered a deeply thought-provoking address titled <em>\u201cEducation in the Algorithmic Condition.\u201d<\/em> In front of a packed audience of students, faculty, and staff, Webb offered a compelling reframe: rather than seeing artificial intelligence (AI) as a novel intrusion into educational spaces, we should instead recognize that education itself has long operated on algorithmic logics.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cEducation has always been algorithmic,\u201d he argued. \u201cIt has not simply absorbed AI from the outside, but has actively contributed to the development and normalization of algorithmic governance.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Webb\u2019s presentation asked attendees to consider the longer histories and deeper philosophical underpinnings of the so-called \u201cAI moment\u201d in education. Drawing from traditions in critical theory, educational policy, and decolonial thought, Webb moved beyond simplistic debates about whether AI is good or bad. Instead, he urged the audience to interrogate the power structures that shape both educational systems and technological developments.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/files\/2025\/04\/IMG_9918-768x1024.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3502\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/files\/2025\/04\/IMG_9918-768x1024.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/files\/2025\/04\/IMG_9918-225x300.jpeg 225w, https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/files\/2025\/04\/IMG_9918-1152x1536.jpeg 1152w, https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/files\/2025\/04\/IMG_9918-1536x2048.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/files\/2025\/04\/IMG_9918-scaled.jpeg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Algorithms, Not Just AI<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One of Webb\u2019s central interventions was the distinction between <strong>AI<\/strong> and <strong>the algorithm<\/strong>. While AI is often framed in popular culture as an autonomous, futuristic force\u2014invoking fears of dystopian control or unbridled disruption\u2014Webb reminded us that <strong>algorithmic thinking<\/strong> has deep roots in human history.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He referenced <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/simpsoncenter.org\/katz-lectures\/algorithms-computers-patterns-recipes-and-rules\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Lorraine Daston\u2019s<\/a><\/strong> work on the history of rules, noting that algorithms\u2014defined as procedural rules for calculation and problem-solving\u2014predate computing by thousands of years. These logics, he explained, were not only mathematical but deeply political, serving as tools of imperial navigation, data extraction, and ultimately, colonial governance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cAlgorithms were essential to colonial conquest,\u201d Webb noted, referencing <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/dornsife.usc.edu\/profile\/kara-keeling\/\">Kara Keeling<\/a><\/strong>, who linked algorithmic epistemologies to practices like charting the Middle Passage.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This history, he argued, is inseparable from education. The classroom, the curriculum, and the child\u2014central constructs of modern schooling\u2014have been shaped by and have reinforced algorithmic forms of classification, optimization, and control.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Governing Through Code<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/files\/2025\/04\/IMG_9926-1024x768.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3503\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/files\/2025\/04\/IMG_9926-1024x768.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/files\/2025\/04\/IMG_9926-300x225.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/files\/2025\/04\/IMG_9926-768x576.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/files\/2025\/04\/IMG_9926-1536x1152.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/files\/2025\/04\/IMG_9926-2048x1536.jpeg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Webb\u2019s keynote explored how educational systems have been entangled in the development of technologies that now govern us. He cited <strong>Alan Turing\u2019s<\/strong> 1951 paper, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;rct=j&amp;opi=89978449&amp;url=https:\/\/uberty.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/intelligent-machinery-a-heretical-theory.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Intelligent Machinery, A Heretical Theory<\/a><\/em>, in which Turing imagines training machines through binary inputs of \u201cpleasure\u201d and \u201cpain.\u201d Here, education becomes a prototype for machine learning.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This mechanistic view of the child, Webb explained, reappears in the foundational work of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.computer.org\/csdl\/magazine\/it\/2016\/06\/mit2016060062\/13rRUwIF6hl\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Seymour Papert<\/strong> and <strong>Marvin Minsky<\/strong><\/a>, and continues today in the work of researchers like <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/psychology.fas.harvard.edu\/people\/elizabeth-s-spelke\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Elizabeth Spelke<\/a><\/strong>, who study child cognition to inform AI design.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cEducation didn\u2019t just absorb AI\u2014it helped birth it,\u201d Webb noted. \u201cFrom behaviorism to developmental psychology, we have shaped the metaphors, methods, and models used in intelligent systems.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He linked these developments to the <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/press.uchicago.edu\/ucp\/books\/book\/distributed\/C\/bo23348570.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Macy Conferences<\/a><\/strong> (1946\u20131953), which gathered thinkers in cybernetics, psychology, and information theory to discuss the human-machine interface. These gatherings, Webb explained, had lasting influence on educational reform, particularly in the United States\u2014impacting figures like <strong>James Comer<\/strong>, <strong>Urie Bronfenbrenner<\/strong>, and other architects of mid-century school models.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Coloniality of the Algorithm<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Perhaps the most urgent and moving portion of the talk came as Webb engaged with the work of <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sylvia_Wynter\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sylvia Wynter<\/a><\/strong>, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/pact.egs.edu\/biography\/denise-ferreira-da-silva\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Denise Ferreira da Silva<\/a><\/strong>, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zakiyyahimanjackson.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Zakiyyah Iman Jackson<\/a><\/strong>, and <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.queensu.ca\/gnds\/people\/katherine-mckittrick\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Katherine McKittrick<\/a><\/strong>. These scholars expose how algorithmic systems often reproduce the erasure of Black life, Indigenous presence, and colonized bodies\u2014rendering them absent from the categories used to calculate, classify, and control.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Quoting McKittrick: \u201cBlack life is absent from the classifier algorithms that statistically organize our world\u2026 This absence affirms how the premature death of Black people is entrenched in algorithmic equations.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As part of his speculative approach, <strong>Dr. Webb<\/strong> introduced new terms\u2014such as <em>\u201cthe colonial-rhythmic\u201d<\/em> and <em>\u201calgo-liberal\u201d<\/em>\u2014to provoke fresh ways of thinking about education\u2019s entanglements with algorithmic and colonial systems. These neologisms, rather than aiming for rigid definitions, functioned as conceptual tools: invitations to notice patterns that might otherwise go unnamed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u201cThe colonial-rhythmic\u201d<\/em> gestures to the recurring and recursive forms of governance rooted in colonial logics\u2014those that count, categorize, and control populations through mechanisms like statistics and standardized education. <em>\u201cAlgo-liberal\u201d<\/em> plays on the fusion of algorithmic reasoning and liberal governance, suggesting that today\u2019s systems of schooling are shaped not just by democratic ideals, but by the instrumental logics of data optimization and behavioral management.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In coining these terms, Webb emphasized the power of language to open up new analytic spaces\u2014spaces that challenge our assumptions, disrupt normative frames, and allow us to glimpse the deeper architectures of educational life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u201cThe colonial-rhythmic\u201d and \u201calgo-liberal\u201d are not just academic inventions\u2014they\u2019re lenses to see how education has long participated in algorithmic control and colonial order.<\/em>&#8221; &#8211; Webb<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Webb\u2019s reflections on this quote were powerful. He suggested that our fear of AI often masks a deeper anxiety: the recognition that education and computation have always been implicated in projects of control, exclusion, and erasure. By tracing these entanglements, he argued, we are better positioned to re-imagine both education and technology on different terms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">A Call to Rethink, Not Reject<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Importantly, Webb did not call for the abandonment of technology, nor did he lean on familiar narratives of crisis or disruption. Instead, he asked the audience to slow down, to look closely, and to approach the algorithmic condition not as a problem to solve, but as a terrain to navigate\u2014with criticality, curiosity, and care.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIf we want to imagine different futures,\u201d he concluded, \u201cwe must first understand the histories\u2014often hidden\u2014that brought us here.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">His keynote resonated deeply with the day\u2019s broader theme, <em>\u201cEducation and the Machine,\u201d<\/em> offering a layered, nuanced starting point for the conversations that followed in breakout sessions, hallway chats, and podcast interviews.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We extend our heartfelt thanks to <strong>Dr. Taylor Webb<\/strong> for accepting the invitation to deliver this year\u2019s keynote. His generosity of thought and commitment to critical inquiry set a powerful tone for Research Day 2025\u2014and offered all of us much to reflect on in the days, months, and research projects ahead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Note &#8211; Our podcast interview with Dr. Webb is coming soon, stay tuned!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Explore More from Research Day:<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/2025\/04\/29\/research-that-matters-reflections-from-edst-research-day-2025\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Research Day Overview &#8211; Reflections and Summary<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/2025\/04\/29\/faculty-spotlight-dr-rob-vanwynsberghe-recognized-for-exemplary-supervision-and-mentorship\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Rob VanWynsberghe Honoured with Supervisor Appreciation Award<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/2025\/04\/29\/student-spotlight-yotam-ronen-honoured-for-building-academic-community\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Yotam Ronen Recognized for Outstanding Student Leadership<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/2025\/04\/29\/staff-spotlight-honouring-himadri-udahage-dona-for-exemplary-service\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Himadri Udahage Dona Recognized for Staff Excellence<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Podcast: Listening Between the Lines (coming soon)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In a compelling keynote, Dr. Taylor Webb invited EDST to reconsider the deep entanglements between education and algorithmic systems, urging us to confront the colonial and political histories that shape today\u2019s AI-driven futures.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":85465,"featured_media":3545,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,96,58],"tags":[116,115,117,114,45,104,107,59,113,44,108],"class_list":["post-3501","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blog-posts","category-featured","category-research-day","tag-ai","tag-algorithmic-condition","tag-algorithmic-governance","tag-black-studies","tag-edst","tag-edst-research-day","tag-educational-studies","tag-research-day","tag-taylor-webb","tag-ubc","tag-university-of-british-columbia"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3501","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/85465"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3501"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3501\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3560,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3501\/revisions\/3560"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3545"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3501"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3501"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/edst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3501"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}