I found the content of O’Donnell and Engell’s broadcast to be a fascinating window into the past as academics considered the implications of changes in technologies. O’Donnell and Engell raise several issues regarding digital technologies while acknowledging the growing influence of technology. While recognizing the potential value of technology in solving problems of the past, O’Donnell expresses caution regarding an infatuation with technology that could be detrimental to the human experience. In education, for example, O’Donnell envisions technology preventing in-person collaboration and, thereby, limiting meaningful experiences of learning (Engell et al., 1999). O’Donnell, however, is measured in his criticism, appealing for a balanced, moral perspective in the integration of technology: “We need to know who we are, we need to know what our values are, we need to understand the changes we are going through well enough in order to understand the technology, understand our world” (Engell et al., 1999). Instead of being “hypnotized” by technology or its perceived threats, O’Donnell appeals for a rational application of technology based on moral and need-based imperatives (Engell et al., 1999). The balance of O’Donnell’s analysis may partially be attributed to its general scope; Engell’s criticisms are more specific, and marked by more uncertainty as he grapples with the specific applications of technology in the present and future. Engell emphasizes the importance of “face-to-face encounters” in education, but also concedes that technology has “in almost every case it has become a necessity” (Engell et al., 1999). The areas of concern with technology becoming so ubiquitous across disciplines, Engell contends, have to do with information management, storage and retrieval (Engell et al., 1999). Engells casts doubt on the survival or longevity of electronically-stored information based on the inevitable changes in software and hardware over time. His concern has since proven to be valid with the emergence of digital decay and failures in digital security, both of which are amply observable today. The current technological struggle involves both the rapid degradation of digital mediums as technology advances coupled with its devastating potential in data loss. It remains a near certainty that every digital medium will ultimately become obsolete. The ability to preserve files online – utilizing cloud storage, for example – is fraught with complications, as well, from privacy issues between users and hosting companies to storage capacity limitations. Engell’s concerns were and continue to be legitimate as it pertains to managing and retrieving digital data over time. Engell segues the discussion to education, arguing that post secondary education must not surrender to new technology, but rather consider how to integrate “newer technology with older technologies” (Engell et al., 1999). This argument is rooted in Engell’s fear of the teacher’s role being destabilized by emerging digital literacies. He speaks to the digital literacy of students and the lack thereof on the part of many professors, and the potential, forced shift in roles such an imbalance would produce (Engell et al., 1999). This argument, while completely valid, is limited in its perspective due to its occupying a place in the newly-emerging frontier of digital literacy. One can only imagine the profound uncertainty educators must have experienced during this time as the educational landscape seemed to be changing beneath them. This “generational difference” that Engell refers to is part of the challenge he foresaw of digital integration in education (Engell et al., 1999). However, instead of viewing digital literacies as a negative force influencing roles in education, I believe educators have had to adjust to the needs and conditions of 21st century learning, just as educators have had to adjust to that of eras past. Granted, this adjustment is perhaps more far-reaching and fundamental than any that have come before, but it has also generated new possibilities for both educators and students alike. Digital education has provided innovative strategies for educators and diverse learning opportunities for students. Whether it be the critical capacities developed through the study of digital content from the consumer’s perspective or the collaboration involved in the creation of diverse digital mediums, a digital education is central to activating and engaging the digital native that is the 21st century learner.
References
Engell J. & O’Donnell J. (1999). From Papyrus to Cyberspace. [Audio File]. Cambridge Forums. Retrieved from https://canvas.ubc.ca/courses/4290/files/609973/preview
Stephanie Kwok
June 7, 2018 — 11:38 pm
Hi Zarah,
Great post, I think we both mentioned many similar points in our posts. It was interesting to read your thoughtful responses to the audio talk. Per your post, O’Donnell “expresses caution regarding an infatuation with technology that could be detrimental to the human experience” (Engell & O’Donnell, 1999). This is an important warning, as many people neglect paying attention to the consequences of society’s technological advances. Many are blinded by the benefits and perks instead. An example of this, is your mention of O’Donnell’s discussion regarding “technology preventing in-person collaboration” (Engell & O’Donnell, 1999). If you think about it, even the invention and development of the telephone resulted in a momentous decrease of in-person collaboration. If one needed to talk to somebody, they could call rather than meeting up with them face-to-face. This trend continued as we advanced to communicating online by using online messenger systems, chat forums, and video call applications. The benefits however, are that we have become able to connect and collaborate so much more quickly and efficiently with just the simple click of a button!
I also like how you touched upon constantly changing technologies, and the resulting problems of these changes, such as with cloud storage and privacy issues. I feel that the more we learn about technology and how it can interact with the world around us, the more we are able to create and develop newer technologies. However, at the same time, the more we create, the more we realize we don’t fully understand. In solving a problem with technology, we end up creating more complications and problems in the process. It is reminiscent to me of Pandora’s box, and how perhaps we may have unwittingly exposed ourselves to something we are now realizing we have very little control over.
Cheers,
Stephanie
References
Engell J. & O’Donnell J. (1999). From Papyrus to Cyberspace. [Audio File]. Cambridge Forums. Retrieved from https://canvas.ubc.ca/courses/4290/files/609973/preview
JamieTooze
June 8, 2018 — 1:12 am
Hi Zarah,
Thank you for your thoughts and insights into …. I also found this broadcast very intriguing for the same reasons you mention but I would even go so far as to suggest it was like a doorway to the past. The muffled voices echoing in the studio, the persistent coughs and nervous laughter from the audience took me back to a time when radio was a much more important medium of communication. Listening to this broadcast brought back memories of Sunday afternoons fiddling with grandma’s radio trying to find the CBC on the AM dial. This broadcast had a homey feeling and I felt like I could trust the authenticity of their message. I am glad this broadcast was stored and eventually digitized.
The title of your post also got me thinking about how we communicate with each other and how we will communicate with future generations. Every author we read in modules one and two pointed out that the development of the written word expanded our world and, as O’Donnell suggests, created a “wider world of discourse than we could have ever lived in if we did not the written word preserving the words of our departed ancestors and spreading the words we have to share with a worldwide community” (O’Donnell 1999). What we have achieved is truly amazing and yet, as you note and Engell argues, we simply “don’t know how long electronic material will last” and this concerns me.
Some of our most valuable historical texts were written on materials that survived all the tests of time. For example, as Engall points out, papyrus scrolls have survived thousands of years and yet I cannot retrieve my first year English Lit paper because I saved it on a 3.5-inch floppy using Word 2.0. If I had known my Mac IIe wouldn’t last forever I would have printed a hard copy.
In an article entitled, “The Internet Isn’t Forever”, Maria Bustillos describes at least five threats to our digital records today. Here I only want to touch on one, albeit the most seemingly benign threat, that of human error. Humans make mistakes and errors in judgment and documents are lost every day. Some are never noticed, and some losses have the potential to change history. As an example, Bustillos asked the simple question, where would we be today if Obama’s birth notice had been destroyed from The Honolulu Star-Advertiser archives when the newspaper was put out of business by the digital news?
Our records, be it digitally born blog posts or reel-to-reel broadcast, are the pages of our story as a modern society and they need to be protected and preserved. We owe it to those that preserved the past for us.
Thanks again
Jamie
References:
Bustillos, Maria (2018, February). The Internet Isn’t Forever. Columbia Journalism Review. Retrieved from https://longreads.com/2018/02/20/the-internet-isnt-forever/
Engell J. & O’Donnell J. (1999). From Papyrus to Cyberspace. [Audio File]. Cambridge Forums. Retrieved from https://canvas.ubc.ca/courses/4290/files/609973/preview
JamieTooze
June 8, 2018 — 1:26 am
Hi Zarah,
Thank you for your thoughts and insights. I also found this broadcast very intriguing for the same reasons you mention but I would even go so far as to suggest it was like a doorway to the past. The muffled voices echoing in the studio, the persistent coughs and nervous laughter from the audience took me back to a time when radio was a much more important medium of communication. Listening to this broadcast brought back memories of Sunday afternoons fiddling with grandma’s radio trying to find the CBC on the AM dial. This broadcast had a homey feeling and I felt like I could trust the authenticity of their message. I am glad this broadcast was stored and eventually digitized.
The title of your post also got me thinking about how we communicate with each other and how we will communicate with future generations. Every author we read in modules one and two pointed out that the development of the written word expanded our world and, as O’Donnell suggests, created a “wider world of discourse than we could have ever lived in if we did not the written word preserving the words of our departed ancestors and spreading the words we have to share with a worldwide community” (O’Donnell 1999). What we have achieved is truly amazing and yet, as you note and Engell argues, we simply “don’t know how long electronic material will last” and this concerns me.
Some of our most valuable historical texts were written on materials that survived all the tests of time. For example, as Engall points out, papyrus scrolls have survived thousands of years and yet I cannot retrieve my first year English Lit paper because I saved it on a 3.5-inch floppy using Word 2.0. If I had known my Mac IIe wouldn’t last forever I would have printed a hard copy.
In an article entitled, “The Internet Isn’t Forever”, Maria Bustillos describes at least five threats to our digital records today. Here I only want to touch on one, albeit the most seemingly benign threat, that of human error. Humans make mistakes and errors in judgment and documents are lost every day. Some are never noticed, and some losses have the potential to change history. As an example, Bustillos asked the simple question, where would we be today if Obama’s birth notice had been destroyed from The Honolulu Star-Advertiser archives when the newspaper was put out of business by the digital news?
Our records, be it digitally born blog posts or reel-to-reel broadcast, are the pages of our story as a modern society and they need to be protected and preserved. We owe it to those that preserved the past for us.
Thanks again
Jamie
References:
Bustillos, Maria (2018, February). The Internet Isn’t Forever. Columbia Journalism Review. Retrieved from https://longreads.com/2018/02/20/the-internet-isnt-forever/
Engell J. & O’Donnell J. (1999). From Papyrus to Cyberspace. [Audio File]. Cambridge Forums. Retrieved from https://canvas.ubc.ca/courses/4290/files/609973/preview
adam sheard
June 8, 2018 — 4:43 pm
Hello Zarah!
I enjoyed reading your post. You picked up on an interesting point in Engell and O’Donnell’s conversation that I would like to follow up on.
Primarily, I would like to discuss the debate about tangible vs intangible knowledge asset storage solutions. I haven’t seen too many people in here referencing the CBC podcast on the Library 2.0 that was in the class notes, but I feel like it speaks to a lot of the concerns brought up by Engell on the impermanence and vulnerability of digital data. You mentioned that, similar to Engell, you also believe that digital storage seems rather haphazard in terms of it’s largely intangible nature. However, in the CBC podcast they tell the story of the great library of Alexandria which was burned down by the Romans a long time ago and how, despite the best efforts of people to recreate monolithic structures to house the tangible knowledge assets of our species, digital technology has been proven to be the most effective way to both store and access information.
While it is indeed true that, as you mentioned, data clouds can be accessed illegitimately, data files can be corrupted, viruses can enter into various systems etc., the fact that we can not only house near unlimited amounts of physical books, pictures, and other data in a fraction of the space and, most importantly, the fact that we can make copies of this data to be stored and accessed securely in a number of places make digital storage solutions the best solution. While both Engell and O’Donnell argued that there are still some people including themselves who prefer to physically enter a library and touch the books to feel truly connected to the knowledge, this notion that one has to physically connect with the knowledge in order to legitimize the medium the knowledge appears upon and the knowledge gleaned from it is not only impractical, but also hugely horrible for the environment. Consider the energy consumed for you to go to a location to read a book (or for a book to be shipped to you), not to mention the resources used (trees that get cut down and chemicals produced) to produce the book.
Now, I understand what you and Jamie were saying by “we don’t know how long electronic materials will last,” but the one thing that we need to recognize is that while text technologies of the past emphasized “permanence,” modern text technologies emphasize “transference.” Books, papyrus, and all other forms of old text were built to last, not built to evolve. In other words, as humans progress into the future books remain as inconvenient and inefficient relics of the past that are not conductive to knowledge growth and the evolution of the usages of texts. Digital texts, on the other hand, are designed with the future in mind and become easier to transform into new forms (even invisible text that may one day be wired directly into our bodies) every day.