I’ve read the first couple sections, and the section on complexity and nonadaptive processes on page 8600, like Yana suggested. I haven’t read the rest of it.
My first impression was a bit of a “well, of course” situation. It makes perfect sense to me that not all changes are adaptive. It certainly sounds like complexity and directional evolution are contentious within the realm of biologists, which is good to be reminded of.
I found the examples of some species becoming ‘simpler’ really interesting. My first reaction was that of “How do we define ‘simple’ and ‘complex’?” It seemed like the argument in the paper was that of species becoming simpler over time showing that complex isn’t allways better. The examples being salamanders losing their legs and vent-worms going from having two opening to having one. These examples seem to be an assumption along the lines of the ‘if it looks like us it is complex’ complex. What if surviving with no legs or no mouth (in the cases of salamanders and vent-worms respectively) is ‘more complex’ somehow. For example, one might need a bi-directional digestive tract to deal with having just one opening, which takes a very complicated gut to deal with things. I can’t say if this is the case or not, but I am uncomfortable accepting the assumption that X change is a ‘simplification’.
Another question I have is based on the following statement:
“However, the effects of mutation and recombination are nonrandom, and by magnifying the role of chance, genetic drift indirectly imposes directionality ….”
Would someone be able to explain how mutation and recombination are nonrandom? I thought that they were by definition random events that were then selected for/against/neutral.
One last thing I’d like to propose is that maybe a better explanation for the survival/fitness of complex organisms can come from their relatively long life instead of them being better replicatiors? If complex multicellular organisms are not as good at replicating, maybe they just hang around because they take longer to be killed off?
-Scott
A response to the Lynch reading for Tuesday.
I’ve read the first couple sections, and the section on complexity and nonadaptive processes on page 8600, like Yana suggested. I haven’t read the rest of it.
My first impression was a bit of a “well, of course” situation. It makes perfect sense to me that not all changes are adaptive. It certainly sounds like complexity and directional evolution are contentious within the realm of biologists, which is good to be reminded of.
I found the examples of some species becoming ‘simpler’ really interesting. My first reaction was that of “How do we define ‘simple’ and ‘complex’?” It seemed like the argument in the paper was that of species becoming simpler over time showing that complex isn’t allways better. The examples being salamanders losing their legs and vent-worms going from having two opening to having one. These examples seem to be an assumption along the lines of the ‘if it looks like us it is complex’ complex. What if surviving with no legs or no mouth (in the cases of salamanders and vent-worms respectively) is ‘more complex’ somehow. For example, one might need a bi-directional digestive tract to deal with having just one opening, which takes a very complicated gut to deal with things. I can’t say if this is the case or not, but I am uncomfortable accepting the assumption that X change is a ‘simplification’.
Another question I have is based on the following statement:
“However, the effects of mutation and recombination are nonrandom, and by magnifying the role of chance, genetic drift indirectly imposes directionality ….”
Would someone be able to explain how mutation and recombination are nonrandom? I thought that they were by definition random events that were then selected for/against/neutral.
One last thing I’d like to propose is that maybe a better explanation for the survival/fitness of complex organisms can come from their relatively long life instead of them being better replicatiors? If complex multicellular organisms are not as good at replicating, maybe they just hang around because they t