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Hitler Meme!

Here’s a more light hearted look at memage:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8617454.stm

What I think is kinda interesting is that there’s two different views of why the Hitler meme has become so popular. One person says:

“It’s really the nature of the internet that once something reaches a critical mass it starts perpetuating itself out of its own momentum,” says creator Andy Nordvall, who uses the name Masters of Humility. “The sheer randomness and seeming arbitrary nature of what goes viral becomes part of the viral-ness itself.”

and another from the comments:

“This meme is so popular because it can be attached to so many events. The leader asks a question about progress, the supporters give him the bad news, the leader expresses concern about what he thought was happening, the supporters repeat the bad news, the leader realises that the challenge has been lost and describes all the opportunities they will now never achieve. The original happens to be about a dark period in history but the key story sequence occurs every day for all of us. I am so looking forward to a few UK Election versions.” (there’s a few similar posts after this)

So, what caused the meme to be popular? Obviously it has to be funny, or no one’s going to want to watch it, but in scenario a.) it just hits a critical mass and once it become recognized by enough people, it just takes off presumably. In the other, there’s actually some intrinsic reason in the meme itself as to why it spread. I’d tend to go with A. A lot of internet memes (cough*rickrolling*cough*) don’t actually make any sense unless you’re in on the joke, and as they become more popular, more people are in on them and they spread more and more.

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Heya. Yes, I’m submitting questions forty minutes before the start of class. So sue me.

Here’s what I’d really like to discuss.

How useful is it to take evolutionary biology and apply some of its principles to other fields? I know we /can/ (as our project and invited speakers have shown), but does it help us understand the fields better? We’ve seen how people study language and folklore and some of it seems very similar to the study of evolution, and I’m wondering how new these ways of thinking are, and whether they’ve consciously borrowed from biology or not (and vice versa, as I seem to recall someone talking about biology taking tree building tactics from linguistics). Also, I know many people don’t like the idea of using evolution to study non-bio fields, and I’d like to discuss whether these arguments have merit or not.

Mostly, it feels like to some degree that we have been learning about several disconnected topics, and I would just like to (attempt to!) tie them neatly together.

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MURC

I feel like I could have done a better job, personally, at MURC, but overall as a group I feel we did well. Next time, I think the entire research project should be brought up right away – we barely had any time to work on it before MURC happened. More time would have been good, and also maybe some prepared discussion questions for the audience at the end (well, and a longer discussion time at the end. I think people were a little surprised about it – since all the rest of the panels were basically mini-lectures and we were trying to get a discussion started!)

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Midterm Thoughts

A general restatement of thoughts: A more thorough introduction tying all the subjects together and briefly explaining them at the beginning would be good. With the short presentations, I agree that the ones we’ve had so far have been scattered. Maybe it would be good to link them broadly to the current topic (as we’re doing from now on). So, one presentation for topics in biology, one for linguistics, and one for culture.

I can’t say I’ve really liked the blog posts. I always forget about them until right before they’re due, and stare blankly at the screen for a while before coming up with something I feel no one reads. Some guiding question might be good (though maybe they should be more suggestions than requirements). It might also be good to group every week’s posts into one thread, I’m thinking that might facilitate discussion more.

Also agreeing with preparing questions to asks presenters before they come in – and maybe having a bit more of an introduction as to who they are and why they’re coming in before they do. I dunno, I feel like this Thurday went really well, and I’m trying to figure what contributed to that. 🙂

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Animal Cultural and Genetic Evolution

Okay, wordpress is acting insane for me now…

To what extent does cultural evolution influence genetic evolution?

Cultural evolution is well established in humans, and support for its occurrence in other vertebrates continues to grow (1). In humans, cultural evolution has been occasionally known to effect genetic evolution, such as in the retention of lactase activity into adulthood in dairy using cultures (2). Little attention has been paid to the possibilities of cultural influences on animal evolution, however there a several examples in which culture may play a roll in population genetics. In one case, a pair of species of Darwin’s finches which have the ability to hybridize appear to maintain relative genetic isolation due to the learning of song in mate choice (3). In another, beneficial cultural traits which are passed on matrilineally may explain low genetic diversity in several whale species (4).
Cases such as these might be better equipped to answer questions on how culture effects evolution than circumstances involving humans, as animal culture tends to be less complex, and in some cases very well studied (5). To this end, I plan to examine supposed instances of animal cultural evolution effecting genetic evolution, and look for trends. I suspect culture will most strongly effect genetic evolution when it is either passed on from parent to offspring, such as in the finches and whales, or allows the species to exploit a new ecological niche such as lactase in humans.

1. Laland, K., Odling-Smee, J., Myles, S. 2010. How culture shaped the human genome: bringing genetics and the human sciences together. Nature Reviews Genetics. 11: 137-148.

2. Laland, K., Janik, V. 2006. The animal cultures debate. TREE. 21(10) 541 – 546.

3. Grant, R., Grant, P. 1996. Cultural Inheritance of Song and Its Role in the Evolution of Darwin’s Finches. Evolution. 50(6): 2471-2487.

4. Whiehead, Hal. 1998. Cultural Selection and Genetic Diversity in Matrilineal Whales. Science. 282 (5394): 1708 – 1711.

5. Podos, J., Huber, S., Taft, B. 2004. Bird Song: The interface of evolution and mechanism. Annu. Rev. Ecol. Evol. Syst. 2004. 35: 55 – 87.

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Population Genetics Plaything

Okay, so here’s the place you can download the really simple population genetics simulation thingy I mentioned today: http://wps.prenhall.com/esm_freeman_evol_3/12/3315/848837.cw/index.html

Your different alleles (so types of a gene, remember) are labbeld A1 and A2. You can give their respective genotypes fitness values, the higher the fitness #, the more they benefit the organism carrying them. Everything else is pretty self-explanatory, except maybe the inbreeding coefficient, which is the probability f of an individual breeding with a relative (who, by definition, is carrying the same alleles).

Anyways, to see what they’re talking about in the Lynch paper, play around with the population size and fitness levels. I have a screenshot of what I did, but cannot for some reason get it to upload on photobucket…

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Here’s my random thought for the week:

So, since I wasn’t able to explain it really well on Thursday, here’s my musing on how it might actually be good for your genes to kill yourself. So as Yana (I think?) was saying, if you’re past the point where you can reproduce, and you’re taking resources away from your children and not contributing much back, the best option is to go off yourself to increase your children’s, little bundles of genes that they are, chance of survival. Now, say that you’re young and fit and in your 20’s, but you’re also a total loser. People of the opposite gender hate you, you’re not particularly good at hunting and gathering and thus mostly rely on other people to get you fed, and your chances of being able to raise a family are pretty slim. Now suppose you have a brother. Your brother is slick and hot and awesome. He already has 15 kids running around, which carry roughly a quarter of your genes. You on the other hand will probably never have kids, and are a drain on your family, decreasing your brother’s kid’s chances of survival. Probably better if you kick it for their sakes then.

Course, at what point you can say that your case is hopeless and other people are better off without you strikes me as very difficult to determine, especially since as social creatures we could in the above situation help out our brother’s kid’s by getting food/fighting off beats/ etc. Also, plenty of people who already have kids/ SOs/ contribute of their family’s survival, etc. commit suicide as well, so I’m not saying this is some sort of adaptive explanation for suicide, I’m just thinking out a case where it could be better for your genes for you to kill yourself, even if you’re still of reproductive age.

As for the Lynch paper, I’m about halfway through it, and am finding it veeery interesting, though as Scott points out, I’m not aware of any sort of objective measurement for complexity (though I think we can safely objectively state that say, the tobacco mosaic virus is less complex than a pony). Cells by themselves are incredibly complex (note: all I know about cells I know from Biol200), so how much more complex, in the scheme of things, are eukaryotes and multicellular creatures? Also, why does this paper mention intelligent design every other page?

Finally, as an example of ‘things that look uber-complex but probably aren’t’ and some unicellular complexity, here’s a podcast I was listening to today about slime mold: http://www.cbc.ca/quirks/archives/09-10/qq-2010-01-23.html (scroll down to Taking Directions from Slime Mould, it also links to the original Science paper among a bunch of other things).

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Okay, here’s my contribution to the week. We spoke a bit about levels of selection, so I thought I’d throw up a paper that shows where an individual’s interest is counter to a group’s interest. There’s also a bit about sex in there, which might be useful to start thinking about now. The paper is How to go extinct by mating too much: population consequences of male mate choice and efficiency n a sexual-asexual species complex by Katja U. Heubel, Daniel J. Rankin and Hanna Kokko.  2009.

First a bit of background, there’s this guppy-like fish genus called Poecilia. In several of the species in that genus, when they interbreed their offspring are these things called gynogens. They’re always female, and their offspring are clones. But while each egg they produce contains all the genetic material their offspring need, they still need to have the egg come into contact with sperm from one of the parental species to jump start the egg’s development. So, the gynogen species need to live around parental species to get the sperm off the males. Males theoretically get no benefit from fertilizing one of these eggs, since their genetic material isn’t passed on in the offspring (though one study found that females of the male’s species are more likely to mate with him if they see him having sex with one of gynogens. This puzzles everyone). This makes gynogens effectively sperm parasitizers.

What’s the problem here? Well the asexual fish should be able to produce twice the number of offspring as the sexual fish, since asexuals only need one individual of their own species to produce another, and sexual species need two individuals (this is officially called the ‘two fold cost of sex’). Thus, the gynogens should increase their population size much faster than the sexual species living in the same area, and should end up out-competing the sexual species for males by sheer numbers.  This causes the sexual species to go extinct, and then the asexual species soon follows because it no longer has any males to get sperm off of.

Two possible factors might throw this off: If males produce enough sperm, they should be able to fertilize all the females, sexual and asexual, and both lineages should persist. Or, males  might preferentially mate with their own species. These traits aren’t necessarily good for an individual to evolve though – sperm is costly to produce, and if the male is too discriminating, it might accidently pass up a chance to mate with a female of its own species, or waste too much time trying to tell whether a potential mate is a gynogen or not (these fish look very similar). The paper looked at these two traits, and constructed a model to see what levels of these traits would be best for the population as a whole (in other words, what amounts of male discrimination and sperm production combined lead to the long-term survival of the species?). They then compared the expected rates to rates in the wild.

I’ll spare the math because well, it’s mathy, and I’ve written a novel already. But, they found that their predicted numbers, and numbers observed in most gynogen populations didn’t match up. They pointed out that local populations have been observed to go extinct, and also that these fish are good colonizers, so as long as the extinction rate is low, individuals might ‘escape’ by colonizing a new area, and the whole game would play out over again. There’s quite a few other factors to consider with these fish (one being that the asexual species don’t completely overlap in niche with the sexual species, which would lessen a lot of competition), but I thought this example was interesting because it talked about group selection, and because gynogens are friggin weird and awesome.

For further reading about asexual fish (and uh, other vertebrates) I suggest Clonality by John Avise. It’s in Woodward. 🙂

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More Testing

Okay. Author names seem to be showing up under the post title (or at least they are for me).

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