Month: September 2013
There was an interesting trend that permeated the readings this week, in my eyes: evolution. I come at this from two different perspectives: one from the evolution of the reader, and the other from the evolution of the perception of the author.
Bourdieu’s “Distinction” was an enlightening piece – I did, however, find it a bit polarizing. The idea that “the opposition between the dominant and the dominated, temporal and spiritual, material and intellectual, etc.” (Rivkin and Ryan 239) is the driving force behind personal taste seems to be an over-generalization. There have always been exceptions to this rule – the daughter of a socialite can be raised on the most acclaimed 17th-century authors but can still develop a stronger affinity for slam poetry, given she has the chance to experience it. It is, in fact, the rejection of what I see as a social obligation to read a certain type of literature that leads to many diverse and colorful interpretations of a text. It’s what helps readers grow. The idea of a reader’s power within a literary work, to me, lies in the fact that every reader is different. I agree wholeheartedly with Stanley Fish when he writes that between two readers, “one of us might be tempted to complain to the other that we could not possibly be reading the same poem…and he would be right; for each of us is reading the poem he had made” (218).
The idea that the reader makes the text, however, can turn the idea of literary criticism into a sea of confusion when it comes to reaching consensus on a text within an “interpretative community”. This, to me, is why readers latch on to the author. Much like many of my classmates, I wasn’t won over by Barthes’ “The Death of the Author” – in fact, I think absence of an author could be incredibly detrimental to the study of a literary work. The author’s view and personal context give us an anchor to work with in terms of finding the “meaning” that we so desperately seek. However: I find one of Foucault’s concerns in “What Is an Author” to be very legitimate. Authors like Marx and Freud, who have achieved the title of “founder of discursivity” (or as I like to call it, “super-author status”), have earned themselves fairly unshakeable credibility as thinkers. What about other writers that contradict these writers’ ideas or bring new ideas to the table within that discourse? Will they forever be denied super-author status, even if their inquiries and conclusions are equally brilliant? It is hard to break out of a system once it’s been created. On a literary level, Barthes would argue that without these super-authors’ names (and more importantly, reputations) removed from their texts, we won’t be able to consider them objectively. I’m not sure if I disagree with that claim.
This, happily, is where the idea of evolution comes in. Quite simply, as readers evolve and continue to break through cultural and social barriers, their ideas behind texts will undoubtedly change. And as Foucault concludes in his piece, “as society changes… the author function will disappear,” and another method for judging a work may very well take its place. I expect (and hope) that as long as humanity continues to evolve, the presence and importance of an author within a text will surely evolve as well.
I wanted to start out by noticing that almost all of us had a reaction to the Barthes’s text “The Death of an Author” and like most of you I have also decided to write on this but also on Foucault’s “what is an author?”. I started by reading Barthes’s “The Death of an Author” and then Foucault “what is an author?”, but after reading both I think we should start with “what is an author?” Because in order to kill the author we need to define it. When reading Foucault I felt that he was trying to find anything we can question regarding an author, he gives a lot of question but not that many answers and the answers he does give I find a little vague. He start questioning what is a “work” and only in this little word we can spend countless hours defining what “works” are but I did find this interesting. Of course I agree with Foucault that not everything writing is a work (eg grocery list) but I also have to say that I believe there is and intent of the writer for what is being written to live on and Foucault talks about this when he relates death to writing and immortalizing. He gives the example of Sadins writing in jail and weather that is a “”work”” and I think is because there is a difference in writing when you are writing so others will continue to read your text in the long run and writing just for yourself or just to inform. I think of the difference between journalistic writing and literature. Foucault then goes on to talk about the authors name and the importance of it and how an author’s name is a “proper name” which entails more than just referencing someone. And I found interesting the relation he makes to the name of an author and science how in the past even in a name had authority, one could just put a name to a text and it would be considered true, even when talking about scientific terms. Later he mentions in the 17th and 18th century this shifted and the author function in science faded away. This made me think how the name of a author today in science is not as important as the title of the person (eg phd…) and the institution associated with and how these two things gives validity to what is written now in day. Lastly another thing that stood out to” me was the idea of authors being “”transdiscursive””, and I liked this idea because it differentiated the different types of authors and how authors like Marx and Freud not only influenced their own work but also “the possibilities and the rules for the formation of other text”(pg 114) One thing I would add and maybe is implied in the text because the term used is discourse which is more than just written works but how what these “founders of discursivity” influence our everyday speech in a way they modify language. Like the example we talked about in class of every one using the term “conscious” that comes from Freud. In the end I think that Foucault question everything related to an author and in a way makes more complex the process of defining who the author is, since we need to define all these other terms ( like what is works…) in order to define the author.
I found this week’s reading to be challenging, mainly as I disagree heavily with Barthes’ idea of ‘’The death of the Author’’. I do agree that the meaning of a text depends on the reader as we will probably all take away something different from our reading experience, perhaps due to Bourdieu’s idea of different ‘’tastes’’ which relate to one’s social position.
I disagree however that writing and its creator and unrelated. The author has created the work; therefore the author has formulated the words, the dialogue and the narrative according to his or her own tastes.
The reader is ‘born’ to interpret the writing. Yet this seems a rather unfair relationship as it is not reciprocated as Barthes does not permit the author to interpret the reader. Barthes implies that the reader will judge the text and respond to it, thus themselves becoming a critic, yet in reality the writer also passes judgement on the reader. A piece of writing exists because the author had a specific intent, and likely taken into consideration when writing would be the reader’s response. An artist cannot surely be disconnected from his masterpiece? Spectators may choose view and interpret a work of art separately and out of context of the artist who produced it, yet the artist is still omniscient within the work.
Talking about the death of the author also implies a previous existence; therefore there has been historically an author. The suggestion that writing is now dispossessed implies that it was ‘’possessed’’ in the first place. Yet it seems as if Barthes is implying that there has never been an authorial presence.
On a separate point I found the reading on Bourdieu to be very interesting where he talks about the fact that language is used as a mechanism of power. Also that the way in which we choose to present our social space to the world demonstrates our perceived notion of our place in society is highly intriguing. Bourdieu talks about ‘’the practical ‘attributive judgement’ whereby one puts someone in a class by speaking to him in a certain way (thereby putting oneself in a class at the same time)’’ (242) which demonstrates the ‘’power’’ of language and how it can be used positively or negatively. The idea that we are all ‘’potential object[s] of categorization’’ (245) I think is rather dangerous as one will either consider oneself inferior to or greater than the person or group to which one compares oneself.
I found this week’s reading to be challenging, mainly as I disagree heavily with Barthes’ idea of ‘’The death of the Author’’. I do agree that the meaning of a text depends on the reader as we will probably all take away something different from our reading experience, perhaps due to Bourdieu’s idea of different ‘’tastes’’ which relate to one’s social position.
I disagree however that writing and its creator and unrelated. The author has created the work; therefore the author has formulated the words, the dialogue and the narrative according to his or her own tastes.
The reader is ‘born’ to interpret the writing. Yet this seems a rather unfair relationship as it is not reciprocated as Barthes does not permit the author to interpret the reader. Barthes implies that the reader will judge the text and respond to it, thus themselves becoming a critic, yet in reality the writer also passes judgement on the reader. A piece of writing exists because the author had a specific intent, and likely taken into consideration when writing would be the reader’s response. An artist cannot surely be disconnected from his masterpiece? Spectators may choose view and interpret a work of art separately and out of context of the artist who produced it, yet the artist is still omniscient within the work.
Talking about the death of the author also implies a previous existence; therefore there has been historically an author. The suggestion that writing is now dispossessed implies that it was ‘’possessed’’ in the first place. Yet it seems as if Barthes is implying that there has never been an authorial presence.
On a separate point I found the reading on Bourdieu to be very interesting where he talks about the fact that language is used as a mechanism of power. Also that the way in which we choose to present our social space to the world demonstrates our perceived notion of our place in society is highly intriguing. Bourdieu talks about ‘’the practical ‘attributive judgement’ whereby one puts someone in a class by speaking to him in a certain way (thereby putting oneself in a class at the same time)’’ (242) which demonstrates the ‘’power’’ of language and how it can be used positively or negatively. The idea that we are all ‘’potential object[s] of categorization’’ (245) I think is rather dangerous as one will either consider oneself inferior to or greater than the person or group to which one compares oneself.
When we totally submerged in a work of litterature, the characters of the book all come to life and perform before us. It seems like we observe all events occur one after another just around us. Writings of the author lead us to the ideally constructed world composed by him. Barthes’ idea about “lose the origin” is too objective to achieve. How do we supposed to do to completely ignoring the existence of the author who brings us to his world ? from my point of view, the reason that some masterpieces passes from generation to generation has something really important to do with the authors’ character. Every author has different experience which would affect his character and therefore their writing styles vary. When we read <<les Confessions>> by Jacques Rousseau, his whole purpose was to lead us to himself, to let us get into the spirit of him, and to know about what kind of person he really was, so how can we remove the author then? Maybe the reader and the author don’t have to be at opposite positions, they are connected in a vary nuance manner. The death of author is not necessary… Admittedly some works like folk tales do lost their origin, do they become easier to analyse?
It’s curious to see that several of us are feeling a little skeptical about the announcement of the “death of the author” and about the absolute power of interpretation given to the new-born reader. Admittedly I am also among those who were asking themselves: ” does the author has to die?”, it seems that we are somehow upset and feel resistant about this notion that the author figure should be completely erased from our reading experience.
However if you think about it, it is perfectly normal that these theorists would want to claim the importance of the role played by the readers in the equation, and it is true that the readers’ reception of the texts contributes just as much to a literary work, so what is really this reluctance in us to let go of the “author”? Maybe it’s because of the brutal image that Barthes’ announcement suggests: the death? Maybe it’s because of the insecurity brought about by the absolute absence of author/authority? Then I realized my emotional response to this announcement just goes to prove how deeply rooted is the author figure in my mind: during years of literary studies, we always start with an author’s biography before even looking at the text, a literary work is so closely related to its author that we always say “I love Flaubert’s works”, and we even invent adjectives like “Proustien” to talk about the style of the author. So what if some readers (like me) find it extremely difficult to exclude author from the text? I agree with Foucault when he says: “it is not enough, however, to repeat the empty affirmation that the author has disappeared”, what we need is a closer look at how the concept of “author” came to be and how it influences our reading experience.
According to Foucault in “What is an author?”, he states that what we call “author” is a “rational being” constructed as a result of the “author function” of discourses. The individual being/author in whom the critics discern “a ‘deep’ motive, a ‘creative’ power, or a ‘design’, the milieu in which writing originates”, becomes the author we know. (Constructed only by critics? Don’t the readers and their interpretations contribute to this construction of “author” as well?) The author, according to Foucault, “is a certain functional principle by which in our culture, one limits, excludes, and chooses; in short, by which one impedes the free circulation, the free manipulation, the free composition, decomposition, and recomposition of fiction.” The word “function” implies that “author” is used to serve a certain end, and that we have the need to use “author” to constrain fiction, a need that Foucault explains as “we fear the proliferation of meaning”. This statement somewhat explains the reluctance to make the author completely disappear: the author has descended from the state of the Author (as indicated by Barthes), but it’s not completely gone, for many readers it still is one of the means for interpreting the text.