{"id":72,"date":"2014-03-01T17:36:02","date_gmt":"2014-03-02T00:36:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/kevinmilligan\/?p=72"},"modified":"2014-08-18T04:11:24","modified_gmt":"2014-08-18T11:11:24","slug":"notes-for-cross-country-checkup","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/kevinmilligan\/2014\/03\/01\/notes-for-cross-country-checkup\/","title":{"rendered":"Notes for Cross Country Checkup"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Background Notes for Cross Country Checkup<br \/>\nKevin Milligan<br \/>\nUBC Vancouver School of Economics<br \/>\nkevin.milligan@ubc.ca<\/p>\n<p>March 2, 2014<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m scheduled to be a guest on <a title=\"Cross Country Checkup\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/checkup\/episode\/2014\/03\/02\/does-the-middle-class-need-a-better-deal\/\">Cross Country Checkup<\/a> with Rex Murphy at 2:30PST\/5:30EST on Sunday March 2, 2014. The topic is &#8220;Does the middle-class need a better deal?&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>[Update: you can hear me with Rex at 1 hour 32 minutes, <a title=\"Kevin with Rex\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/checkup\/episode\/2014\/03\/02\/does-the-middle-class-need-a-better-deal\/\">here<\/a>.]<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"line-height: 1.5em;\">Here are my background notes, with references. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"line-height: 1.5em;\">My basic argument summarizing most of this is laid out in an accessible way in <\/span><a style=\"line-height: 1.5em;\" title=\"Milligan in Maclean's\" href=\"http:\/\/www2.macleans.ca\/2013\/08\/15\/canadas-middle-class-incomes-are-stagnatings-why-it-matters-and-how-to-fix-it\/\">this<\/a><span style=\"line-height: 1.5em;\"> Maclean&#8217;s article.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Last week, there was an IRPP\/CLSRN conference on this topic featuring a great depth of research. The slides and audio from that conference is <a title=\"IRPP conference\" href=\"http:\/\/www.irpp.org\/en\/events\/income-inequality\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: What\u2019s going on with middle class jobs?<br \/>\n<\/strong><br \/>\n* 30 year trend across industrialized countries: Hollowing out of job market; middle skill jobs have been shrinking. Technology is changing the job market irreversibly.<br \/>\n[Source: \u00a0See it in one graph <a title=\"Autor's graph from IRPP keynote\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kevinmilligan\/status\/439217634937016320\">here<\/a>.\u00a0<a title=\"Goos Manning Salomons\" href=\"https:\/\/www.econ.kuleuven.be\/public\/n06022\/aerpp09.pdf\">Goos Manning Salomons AERPP 2009<\/a>\u00a0or <a title=\"David Autor\" href=\"http:\/\/economics.mit.edu\/files\/6343\">David Autor 2010<\/a>\u00a0or Autor&#8217;s keynote to IRPP\/CLSRN conference: <a title=\"Autor Slides\" href=\"http:\/\/www.irpp.org\/assets\/Uploads\/autor.pdf\">slides<\/a> <a title=\"Autor keynote video\" href=\"http:\/\/youtu.be\/0G326ChtQ5s\">video<\/a>. Evidence on Canadian job polarization from <a title=\"Green and Sand\" href=\"http:\/\/faculty.arts.ubc.ca\/kmilligan\/CanadianPolarization5.pdf\">Green and Sand<\/a>.]<\/p>\n<p>* Canada has been fortunate to have some factors pushing against those trends: increased participation of women and the oil boom.<br \/>\n[Source: for resource boom, see <a title=\"Fortin Lemieux\" href=\"http:\/\/faculty.arts.ubc.ca\/nfortin\/FortinLemieux_Inequality_%20provinces.pdf\">Fortin-Lemieux 2014<\/a>. For women, see CANSIM 202-0101 graphed <a title=\"Milligan inequality presentation\" href=\"http:\/\/faculty.arts.ubc.ca\/kmilligan\/research\/papers\/milligan-inequality-presentation.pdf\">here<\/a> on slide 4.\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: What about middle class incomes?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>* Median family incomes fell from 1980 to 1995, but grew from 1995 to 2011. The uptick is great news, but we have to understand what\u2019s driving these trends.<br \/>\n[Source: See my Maclean&#8217;s article <a title=\"Milligan on middle class incomes\" href=\"http:\/\/www2.macleans.ca\/2013\/08\/15\/canadas-middle-class-incomes-are-stagnatings-why-it-matters-and-how-to-fix-it\/\">here<\/a>, or see CANSIM numbers graphed\u00a0<a title=\"Milligan inequality presentation\" href=\"http:\/\/faculty.arts.ubc.ca\/kmilligan\/research\/papers\/milligan-inequality-presentation.pdf\">here<\/a>\u00a0on slide 4. \u00a0Stephen Gordon provides an alternative view on Maclean&#8217;s <a title=\"Gordon on Trudeau and Freeland\" href=\"http:\/\/www2.macleans.ca\/2013\/08\/06\/to-justin-trudeau-and-chrystia-freeland-re-the-middle-class\/\">here<\/a> and <a title=\"Gordon on Trudeau and Nathalie\" href=\"http:\/\/www2.macleans.ca\/2014\/02\/24\/a-short-history-of-nathalies-familys-income\/\">here<\/a>.]<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"line-height: 1.5em;\">* Male earnings on their own have been stagnating nationally. The national family income boost has been driven by women.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>* Also, middle earners in oil boom provinces like Alberta and Newfoundland and Labrador have been doing very well. Ontario and BC have seen downright declines.<br \/>\n[Source CANSIM 202-0101, graphed <a title=\"Graph of median male earnings by region\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kevinmilligan\/status\/439545364836655105\/photo\/1\">here<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>* Top incomes (those in the top 1% or top 0.1%) grew tremendously since the mid 1980s. They&#8217;ve given up some of those gains since 2008&#8211;time will tell if trend recovers after recession.<br \/>\n[Source: see CANSIM 204-0002 numbers graphed\u00a0<a title=\"Milligan inequality presentation\" href=\"http:\/\/faculty.arts.ubc.ca\/kmilligan\/research\/papers\/milligan-inequality-presentation.pdf\">here<\/a>\u00a0on slide 6. 1982-2010 trends graphed <a title=\"Lemieux and Riddell\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/stephen_tapp\/status\/437978133682077696\/photo\/1\">here<\/a>. Long-run Canadian trends are in <a title=\"Mike Veall's CEA presidential address\" href=\"http:\/\/milescorak.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/10\/addresscslrn.pdf\">Veall 2012<\/a>. Global trends are in <a title=\"Atkinson Piketty Saez 2010\" href=\"http:\/\/elsa.berkeley.edu\/~saez\/atkinson-piketty-saezJEL10.pdf\">Atkinson, Piketty Saez 2010<\/a>. Graph the global trends yourself using the <a title=\"Top Incomes Database\" href=\"http:\/\/topincomes.parisschoolofeconomics.eu\/\">Paris School of Economics Top Incomes Database<\/a>.]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: Are the upward middle family income trends sustainable?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>* Need to think about the <em>next<\/em> 25 years.<\/p>\n<p>* Should we rely on Canadian women working more to drive us higher?<\/p>\n<p>* Short of finding oil in Oshawa, we need to find solutions that work for all Canadians including the non-oil provinces.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"line-height: 1.5em;\">* Need to think about ways to build an economy where prosperity is felt across the income distribution and across the country.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: What does the Statistics Canada wealth survey have to say about the middle class?<\/strong><br \/>\nStatistics Canada release on 2012 wealth survey <a title=\"SFS Statistics Canada release\" href=\"http:\/\/www.statcan.gc.ca\/daily-quotidien\/140225\/dq140225b-eng.htm\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>* Overall net worth has grown&#8211;by 44.5% at the median from 2005 to 2012. This is not a bad thing. But not entirely a good thing either.<\/p>\n<p>* Need to look underneath the headline&#8211;it is driven by real estate wealth.<br \/>\n[See my Maclean\u2019s article <a title=\"Milligan in Maclean's\" href=\"http:\/\/www2.macleans.ca\/2014\/02\/28\/the-new-family-wealth-data-arent-worthy-of-tears-or-cheers\/\">here<\/a>\u00a0for expansion and sources for these arguments.]<\/p>\n<p>* If people don\u2019t cash out their real estate gains, this is just a paper gain for current homeowners.<\/p>\n<p>* Not a sustainable source of societal wealth accumulation&#8211;next generation faces sky-high house prices. Great for today\u2019s middle class, but how does this help tomorrow\u2019s middle class?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: What are the policy solutions?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>* This is driven by deep global trends; not going to reverse with a finger-snap.<\/p>\n<p>* Must resist temptation to try to turn back the trade\/technology clock to 1980. We still need growth; just would be better with growth that\u2019s more broadly felt both across the income distribution and across the country.<\/p>\n<p>* We know that over last 30 years the best protection has been education: vastly different trends for different education groups. On its own may not be enough, but this must be part of conversation.<br \/>\n[source: See <a title=\"Bourdarbat Lemieux and Riddell\" href=\"http:\/\/ftp.iza.org\/dp4809.pdf\">Bourdarbat, Lemieux, Riddell 2010<\/a>\u00a0for long-run returns to education, or <a title=\"Frenette 2014\" href=\"http:\/\/www.statcan.gc.ca\/daily-quotidien\/140227\/dq140227c-eng.htm\">Frenette 2014<\/a>. Startling trends in US education returns from David Autor: <a title=\"Graph of US education returns from Autor\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kevinmilligan\/status\/439216664370900992\/photo\/1\">graph<\/a>, <a title=\"Autor IRPP presentation\" href=\"http:\/\/www.irpp.org\/assets\/Uploads\/autor.pdf\">full slides<\/a>. Some slides for a forthcoming paper by Foley and Green are <a title=\"Foley and Green\" href=\"http:\/\/www.irpp.org\/assets\/Uploads\/foley-green.pdf\">here<\/a>; they challenge notion that education alone will solve the problems. <a title=\"Beaudry Green Sand\" href=\"http:\/\/www.economics.ubc.ca\/files\/2013\/05\/pdf_paper_paul-beaudry-great-reversal.pdf\">Beaudry Green and Sand 2013 <\/a>suggest a &#8216;reversal&#8217; in 2000, as higher skill workers moved down job ladder and crowded out lower skill workers. But<a title=\"Lindley and Machin\" href=\"http:\/\/personal.lse.ac.uk\/machin\/pdf\/jl%20sm%20october%202013.pdf\">\u00a0Lindley and Machin 2013<\/a>\u00a0find that in 2000s all the reversal did was slow the\u00a0<em>growth<\/em>\u00a0of the skill wage gap.]<\/p>\n<p>* On the \u2018top 1%\u2019, best solutions are to ensure we have strong corporate governance so executive pay reflects performance. Also work hard to tighten tax loopholes so everyone pays their share.<br \/>\n[Source: I expand on these arguments in this presentation <a title=\"Milligan Inequality Presentation\" href=\"http:\/\/faculty.arts.ubc.ca\/kmilligan\/research\/papers\/milligan-inequality-presentation.pdf\">here<\/a>. I make some tax system suggestions in Maclean&#8217;s <a title=\"Milligan on taxing high incomes\" href=\"http:\/\/www2.macleans.ca\/2013\/09\/18\/dear-linda-mcquaig-here-are-three-smart-ways-to-actually-get-more-money-from-the-rich\/\">here<\/a>,]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Background Notes for Cross Country Checkup Kevin Milligan UBC Vancouver School of Economics kevin.milligan@ubc.ca March 2, 2014 &#8212; I&#8217;m scheduled to be a guest on Cross Country Checkup with Rex Murphy at 2:30PST\/5:30EST on Sunday March 2, 2014. The topic is &#8220;Does the middle-class need a better deal?&#8221;. 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