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[<a href=”http://storify.com/markabates/mod8chat” target=”_blank”>View the story “#MOD8CHAT” on Storify</a>]<br /> <h1>#MOD8CHAT</h1> <h2>This is the archived Module 8 Twitter chat for UBC MET course ETEC 511 64D. Sunday, November 04, 2012https://blogs.ubc.ca/ppet</h2> <p>Storified by Mark A. Bates · Sun, Nov 04 2012 20:03:34</p> <div>@markabates Thanks for setting this up Mark. U r awesome to work with! #mod8chatEffie Klein</div> <div>@psweeze @alexmonp Totally. Nice chatting. Night. #mod8chatEffie Klein</div> <div>Thanks for a great TweetChat mod8team!! #mod8chat Not as late for me (10pm) as for @markabates but still off to bed for me.Jason Harbor</div> <div>@lisastefaniak1 That is a good one. I’m not sure. Benefits to both. I know I missed some comments but can look over later. #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@markabates Great job mod8team! Look forward to seeing #mod8chat on StorifyPhilip Sweezey</div> <div>I’ll post chat history on blog tomorrow. #mod8chat I hope everyone thought it was a good experience.Mark A. Bates</div> <div>#mod8chat Can I ask a radical question? Is this chat about edu-tech better or worse than a f2f conv? #Mod8chatLisa Stefaniak</div> <div>@markabates I don’t know whether to be flattered… #mod8chatEffie Klein</div> <div>Well fellow tweeps, we are entering closing time. It’s midnight my time. Thanks for everyone who showed up on behalf of mod8team #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@alexmonp @effie_klein Most impactful with classroom teachers. Educators need to display awareness and be seen as a trust agent #mod8chatPhilip Sweezey</div> <div>@psweeze @alexmonp @troymoore @effie_klein @lisastefaniak1 Best practices need teaching not just operation of tech #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@psweeze @JHarb_PP @markabates I think the students are more aware than the teachers… esp to the advantages. #mod8chatEffie Klein</div> <div>@effie_klein No and they never will. Clown under bed. That’s all i have to say. #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@markabates @alexmonp @troymoore @effie_klein @lisastefaniak1 Most of my interns had little to no exposure of theory or instrument #mod8chatPhilip Sweezey</div> <div>@effie_klein @psweeze maybe creating teaching techniques that incorporate consequences and ‘guide’ the use of tech during class #mod8chatAlex Monegro</div> <div>@markabates NO!! Try living with one. Do your kids have one? #mod8chatEffie Klein</div> <div>Poll 2: Mark was featured in MRI on blog. However Effie was voted most likely. http://www.polleverywhere.com/multiple_choice_polls/NzU5ODI5NTcy #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@markabates Yeah, thought it was going the way of the creepy #mod8chatEmily Bradford</div> <div>@lisastefaniak1 Yes, building in effective discussion is crucial to prioritizing the in-person relationship #mod8chatEffie Klein</div> <div>Did not see this coming http://www.polleverywhere.com/multiple_choice_polls/MTgxOTI3NTUzNQ Furby is fun #mod8chat – poll closedMark A. Bates</div> <div>@alexmonp @troymoore @markabates @lisastefaniak1 The innoculation has certainly begun where I teach. #mod8chatEffie Klein</div> <div>@JHarb_PP @markabates @effie_klein True. Guidance is key in complex computer culture. Students need to be aware of consequences #mod8chatPhilip Sweezey</div> <div>RT @alexmonp: @troymoore @markabates @effie_klein @lisastefaniak1 innoculate teacher by having ed tech more prominent in B.ed? #mod8chatTroy Moore</div> <div>#mod8chat One obvious danger is instrumentalizing the edu-student relationship as extension of edu-tech relationship #Mod8chatLisa Stefaniak</div> <div>@alexmonp @troymoore @effie_klein @lisastefaniak1 For sure. Many assume that young educators have effective tech use – not so. #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@troymoore @effie_klein @lisastefaniak1 For me that is an issue of support and pd. Biased I know. #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@markabates @psweeze @troymoore many lack the ability to think rationally about tech. #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>@kmd1025 Not at all. I mean that I’m more inclined towards a constructionist LM now. ANd it really works in my field. #mod8chatEffie Klein</div> <div>@troymoore @markabates @effie_klein @lisastefaniak1 innoculate teacher by having ed tech more prominent in B.ed? #mod8chatAlex Monegro</div> <div>@psweeze @troymoore @JHarb_PP True. They are at an emotional age in dev. too. #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@psweeze @JHarb_PP that is an argument unto itself #mod8chat #puttheiphonedownTroy Moore</div> <div>@troymoore @JHarb_PP Cultivating students ability to harness use out of increasingly emotional relationship w/ artifacts is tough #mod8chatPhilip Sweezey</div> <div>@markabates @effie_klein @lisastefaniak1 also many teachers dont trust tech. become too reliant and if it breaks…#mod8chatTroy Moore</div> <div>@markabates @effie_klein @lisastefaniak1 maybe not "don’t trust" but "fear"-afraid of "losing control" – not having all knowledge #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>@effie_klein I like that it pushes me in new directions. Like this chat. Growth! #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@effie_klein is it necessarily a bad way?? #mod8chatMin Dong</div> <div>@lisastefaniak1 Reason glad in MET. Lots of facil. with background exp. Need some grounding. #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@markabates I love using tech in class, but it’s teaching me a different way to teach. #mod8chatEffie Klein</div> <div>@effie_klein @lisastefaniak1 Totally agree.Sadly tech is often banned in schools .. don’t know if don’t trust teachers or tech #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>#mod8chat I hesitate to jump to facilitation without theorization. #Mod8chatLisa Stefaniak</div> <div>@effie_klein it’s so true.. #mod8chatMin Dong</div> <div>@JHarb_PP Us to. @psweeze @timlukie did some great work last year on the topic in our district. #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@markabates Agreed. Working hard this year in my school. DigCit with students in my Prof. Growth Plan #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>@lisastefaniak1 Much depends on the educator’s ability to teach. CAn’t blame the tech. #mod8chatEffie Klein</div> <div>@troymoore @JHarb_PP @lisastefaniak1 Agreed. #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@JHarb_PP #mod8chat This is a huge issue. This is where we need to start working fast with students.Mark A. Bates</div> <div>@lisastefaniak1 Is it effective? Evaluation and reflection on practice and results #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@markabates yes. they don’t come to us with dig.cit. skills. We need to be aware and help guide them #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>#mod8chat indeed. When does educator enthusiasm become fetishism or self-indulgence? #Mod8chatLisa Stefaniak</div> <div>@lisastefaniak1 depends on the student. Motivated student will use it productively. Distracted student will use it as distraction. #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>@psweeze @lisastefaniak1 agreed, but tech. is here to stay. We need to get in front or get left behind #mod8chatTroy Moore</div> <div>@markabates @lisastefaniak1 it can help enable students to take cntrl of learning but educators need "provision of support" #mod8chatPhilip Sweezey</div> <div>@lisastefaniak1 I thin it depends upon the tool and its implementation. Coomey & Stephensens "Essentials" can help assess #mod8chatPhilip Sweezey</div> <div>@lisastefaniak1 then take same question and substitute ‘educator’ for student. #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@troymoore @psweeze @lisastefaniak1 I think he’s a little more believable as a human than Steven Harper was in his earlier days #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>#mod8chat The practical question might be: how do students’ relationships with tech aid or impede the goals of education? #Mod8chatLisa Stefaniak</div> <div>@troymoore oh I thought it didn’t predict things right, there was one article I read that said it failed to predict.. oh well.. #mod8chatMin Dong</div> <div>RT @BradfordEmily: I agree, harder to predict when we’re expanding on current technology, depth not breadth of development #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@troymoore @kmd1025 yes, not sure of exact value, but the correlation is very strong #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>@JHarb_PP @kmd1025 #mod8chat Moore’s Law seems right on the money http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Transistor_Count_and_Moore%27s_Law_-_2011.svg&page=1Troy Moore</div> <div>FYI #mod8chat – will be using http://storify.com to post our chat in entire glory tomorrow on the blog https://blogs.ubc.ca/ppetMark A. Bates</div> <div>@markabates @kmd1025 it’s worked remarkably well for almost 50 years, many thought it would fail but didn’t #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>@JHarb_PP maybe.. but the growth is so unpredictable we may see things in couple of days or in 100 years.. #mod8chatMin Dong</div> <div>@kmd1025 @lisastefaniak1 "Statistical dead heat" if only US electoral system followed this, 2 states will probably decide it all #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>@JHarb_PP @kmd1025 #mod8chat I wonder if we are reaching the end of our ability to predict that type of growthMark A. Bates</div> <div>@lisastefaniak1 haha.. btw, is the election on this tuesday? So close.. polls are so close now as well.. #mod8chatMin Dong</div> <div>@JHarb_PP @markabates @alexmonp @lisastefaniak1 the way brain ed. and techn. grows, may not be as far-fetched as we think.#mod8chatTroy Moore</div> <div>@kmd1025 with the exponential growth of computer power… maybe Moore’s Law needs to be revised?? #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>@lisastefaniak1 #mod8chat LOLMark A. Bates</div> <div>@kmd1025 @psweeze #mod8chat I find myself thinking about this more with my 3 1/2 and 1 1/2 old children and the amount of tech I bring homeMark A. Bates</div> <div>#modchat8 Mitt Romney might meet requirements of sentient machine, but we’ll see #Mod8chatLisa Stefaniak</div> <div>@markabates @alexmonp @lisastefaniak1 check out his books "The Age of Spiritual Machines" (1st) & "The Singularity Is Near" (2nd) #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>@psweeze I agree, it seems young children are at higher risk of losing their identity #mod8chatMin Dong</div> <div>Just completed the survey #mod8chatTroy Moore</div> <div>@JHarb_PP or maybe by 2030?? #mod8chatMin Dong</div> <div>@JHarb_PP @alexmonp @lisastefaniak1 @raykurzweil2035 Massive followers for 147 tweets … will look into him #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@lisastefaniak1 True. I see Erikson’s concept of “physcosocial moratorium” has drastic implications with todays youth and identity #mod8chatPhilip Sweezey</div> <div>@markabates @alexmonp @lisastefaniak1 @raykurzweil2035 believes by 2100 we will have machine consciousness #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>@JHarb_PP @alexmonp @lisastefaniak1 If that is even possible. A machine conciousness maybe. #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@JHarb_PP @alexmonp @lisastefaniak1 #mod8chat .. I think we are a long way off at least in terms of a machine exp. human conciousnessMark A. Bates</div> <div>@markabates @alexmonp @lisastefaniak1 great thoughts on this topic from @raykurzweil2035 #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>#modchat8 I guess the level of independent agency; algorithms lack free will, and neural pathways are non-deterministic afaik #Mod8chatLisa Stefaniak</div> <div>@markabates @alexmonp @lisastefaniak1 the question in my mind is how far along that road are we? #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>@lisastefaniak1 sentience can have levels, at what level do we stop calling it a machine? #mod8chatAlex Monegro</div> <div>@alexmonp @lisastefaniak1 so then where is the line between algorithms in the brain (emotions/sentience) and algorithms in tech? #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>@psweeze: @lisastefaniak1 yes I agree @ sturkle where she states with technology we can sacrifice conversation for mere connection #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@jharb_pp @lisastefaniak1 definitely algorithms, but aren’t neural pathways that trigger emotion in a way also algorithms #mod8chatAlex Monegro</div> <div>@lisastefaniak1 i don’t see us as being there yet … i think the appearance of reciprocity is by design-to link us to the product #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>#modchat8 for me, reciprocity implies sentience. #Mod8chatLisa Stefaniak</div> <div>@effie_klein In a way a support #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>#mod8chat I wonder if this is the attachment Dall’Alba et al were talking about when they said…Effie Klein</div> <div>@alexmonp @lisastefaniak1 what drives the encouragement? Emotions or algorithms? #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>#mod8chat But I guess, for a busy career woman and mom, it kind of takes care of things for her.Effie Klein</div> <div>@alexmonp Here is a link https://blogs.ubc.ca/ppet/tweetchat/ to topic. Sorry for issue. #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@lisastefaniak1 is it non-reciprocal if you have an app that gives feedback & encourages type of activities a la nike fuel band #mod8chatAlex Monegro</div> <div>#mod8chat Apparently it entertains her when she’s down, organizes her life, brings her friends and family closer (it is a phone after all).Effie Klein</div> <div>Phone has been acting up lately (battery) & I definitely feel like’s something is missing but not like if a body part was missing #mod8chatAlex Monegro</div> <div>#modchat8 can a non-reciprocal, instrumental mode of use be called a relationship? #Mod8chatLisa Stefaniak</div> <div>@alexmonp Sure thing. Give me a couple of seconds. #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>@effie_klein I have a love/hate relationship with tech. Love ability it gives me to access, hate I always feel I have to use it #mod8chatJason Harbor</div> <div>@markabates I’m having a lot of trouble with getting the question, any chance we can put it up somewhere that’s easier to read? #mod8chatAlex Monegro</div> <div>@effie_klein was she serious when she said that, or was that more of a joke? #mod8chatMin Dong</div> <div>What does she find makes it such a good friend? #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>#modchat8 hey everyone #Mod8chatLisa Stefaniak</div> <div>#mod8chat Ok I’ll give it a go… I have a girl friend who says the best relationship she’s ever had is with her iPhone (!) Any comments?Effie Klein</div> <div>Good evening #mod8chat! Looking forward to a good chat tonight!Jason Harbor</div> <div>#mod8chat OK I think I got it!Effie Klein</div> <div>@effie_klein you got it #mod8chatPhilip Sweezey</div> <div>Welcome tweeps! Please scroll to bottom of stream (1 day ago) to see topic for discussion. #mod8chat. Fire away when ready.Mark A. Bates</div> <div>#mod8chat Is this working?Effie Klein</div> <div>@effie_klein Yes. 🙂 You just need to add #mod8chat to your tweet to show up in the chat stream.Mark A. Bates</div> <div>Hello people! I’m looking forward to a great discussion 🙂 #mod8chatMin Dong</div> <div>Did you know Sherry Turkle is on Twitter @sturkle ? #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>Related: Great podcast on @sparkcbc re: web conciousness and a connection to @sturkle on unitasking http://www.cbc.ca/video/watch/Radio/ID=1951468496 #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>RT @markabates: @MichaelWhelton Important questions Furby .. Fun or creepy? Who’s MRI in header image? https://blogs.ubc.ca/ppet #mod8chatMichael Whelton</div> <div>“@markabates:Important questions Furby .. Fun or creepy? Who’s MRI in header image? https://blogs.ubc.ca/ppet #mod8chat” Bates website? Cool!Michael Whelton</div> <div>@MichaelWhelton Important questions Furby .. Fun or creepy? Who’s MRI in header image? https://blogs.ubc.ca/ppet #mod8chatMark A. Bates</div> <div>Hi @BradfordEmily You just did. 🙂 Keep adding #mod8chat to your tweets & use search for hashtag to read what everyone is tweetingMark A. Bates</div> <div>RT @markabates: Don’t forget – cast votes on 2 #mod8chat polls http://www.polleverywhere.com/multiple_choice_polls/MTgxOTI3NTUzNQ/web & http://www.polleverywhere.com/multiple_choice_polls/NzU5ODI5NTcy/web – They are both close races. Results after chat.Michael Whelton</div> <div>@markabates Hey, I’m new to twitter… how do we talk/add #mod8chat?Emily Bradford</div> <div>Don’t forget – cast votes on 2 #mod8chat polls http://www.polleverywhere.com/multiple_choice_polls/MTgxOTI3NTUzNQ/web & http://www.polleverywhere.com/multiple_choice_polls/NzU5ODI5NTcy/web – They are both close races. Results after chat.Mark A. Bates</div> <div>@markabates will you be publishing the #mod8chat conversation in any other format afterwords for further reflection on your blog?Philip Sweezey</div> <div>@markabates Thanks! I’m eager to see the discussion tonight! Great platform choice for #mod8chatPhilip Sweezey</div> <div>#mod8chat FYI – If you are new to Twitter, I’ll be checking my account from now until the chat starts if you want to test things out.Mark A. Bates</div> <div>#mod8chat is today at 7 pm PST but feel free to tweet your 2 cents early. Question tweeted yesterday.Mark A. Bates</div> <div>#mod8chat con’t or is it an exceptional way to expand out horizons?Mark A. Bates</div> <div>#mod8chat con’t However, in the case of a virtual world, could this relationship with technology go too far,Mark A. Bates</div> <div>#mod8chat: con’t-Dall’Alba and Barnacle add the element of a common goal that creates and strengthens the bond.Mark A. Bates</div> <div>#mod8chat: con’t-Some people anthropomorphize things like cars while, in this case, it’s technological devices such as iPhones,computers,etcMark A. Bates</div> <div>#mod8chat: Our tendency to get attached to "relational artifacts", as Turkle puts it, is not new.Mark A. Bates</div> <div>#mod8chat is this Sunday, Nov 4th at 7 pm PSTMark A. Bates</div> <div>#mod8chat starts nov 4 @ 7 pst – pass it onMark A. Bates</div>
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