Money to Burn

This was definitely a book that I would go back and reread. It is a genre that I like to read (well actually I tend to read more on the other side with a detective trying to solve the crime) but also because I did find all the aliases/nicknames and characters a bit confusing. Along with the perspectives shifting. The story has a sort of pressure/anxiety to it but I found it a little difficult to fall into it because I was constantly trying to remember who the characters were, by trying to connect their first name, last name, nicknames, and aliases together.

I was immediately pulled into the book, unlike the others I have read for this course. I like how Piglia describes Dorda and Brignone as twins (even though they look nothing alike) to show how they always stick together and their loyalty to one another. I loved how the heist follows different characters (such as Alberto Martinez Tobar, Spector, and Señor Busch) and what was going on with them around the time of the heist. I think this book would make great heist movie while staying true to the book, especially because of chapter 2 and how its all laid out already.

The criminals are also written very well. They aren’t perfect (their plan goes wrong), they all aren’t suave and charming that can get away with everything. They aren’t completely heroic or completely evil. On one hand, they are people that you don’t agree with because of all the death they have caused of not only cops but other innocent bystanders. But, on the other hand, we are able to see into their thoughts and emotions and it makes us, not exactly like, but understand them more(?). It makes them human and the emotional storyline between Dorda and Brignone made me hope that they would survive and get away with it (so that they could go on and live happily ever after… 😉

The ending of the book with the shootout and being surrounded by cops gave me some Bonnie and Clyde vibes. It makes me wonder if Piglia did that on purpose to show the loyalty and love between Dorda and Brignone. It was nice to read a book where the gay characters aren’t just the comic relief or depicted as soft(???). Like these two guys are considered to be “heavyweights, men of action” (3). It was also great to see how Dorda was the heavy/bigger on of the two and we see just how much love is in him for Brignone. How this big guy, that in media, is normally depicted as the strong, silent type.

Do you think that if this had not been based on a true story, that it would be less compelling and interesting to read?

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Calvino Participates in Evil Author Day

If on a Winter’s Night a Traveler pulled me in from the start. The way that it is about you reading a reader (yourself) read was very interesting. I loved how he tells you to find your most comfortable position to read and the fact that I have read in most of those positions. I also love how having a massive TBR pile but still going out to buy a new book is not a 21st century phenomenon. It was a little unsettling seeing how well he described his readers. “You open your book to page one, no, to the last page, first you want to see how long it is” (8). This was exactly what I did when I picked the book up to read it. I got comfortable in my bed and then checked to see how long the book was.

I starting off loving the book and the concept of reading a reader read their book and we also getting to read the book the reader is reading. My love for it decreased when every book ended up being a new book. It was like reading an uncompleted fanfiction that hasn’t been updated since 2014 and therefore, most likely, never will be. I was hoping, after reading the premise of the book, that the different stories would somehow come to some sort of conclusion, or that they would somehow connect to each other, like Salt to the Sea by Ruta Sepetys. I also started to dislike how it moved away from the stories being connected to one another in some way. Like the first was because they got bond together, and then because it was a book with the same characters and so forth. When the reader goes to the publisher and reads the book from there, it starts to move away form the original story is a different way that I did not like.

This book to me seemed like Calvino had a bunch of drafts or snippets of different stories and put them together and made a story around it. It reminds me of Evil Author Day, which is fanfiction event where writers share their drafts, abandoned work-in-progress works, and snippets. I’m not a writer, I’m a reader, and I have read many that are so good, but then they end before the climax and we are left unsatisfied.

I would recommend people to read the book just because of the concept and how it is written. I would give them a fair warning though that they might hate it.

My discussion question is: What story do you want to get a completed version of to read? What makes you interested in that story and not the others?

For me it was definitely the first one, If on a Winter’s Night a Traveler. It might be because I was actually interested in the book and the time and not just reading it to finish it, but I would love to keep reading that story and see what was in the suitcase and what sketchy things they were up to. I do think that if I read all of the stories, not knowing that I would be left in suspense, then I would want to finish them all. I stopped caring about the stories once I figured out that they will not be continued.

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Can anyone be normal?

We talked about people being normal and what normal meant in one of our classes and  I go back to that because for almost 3/4 of the book the only normal person was Mateu and maybe Cintet. Mateu was a man that was very much in love with his wife and daughter. He was a man that missed them and stayed friends with his wife to raise their daughter together. There was no romantic love for Natalia which was nice to read.

The boy, Antonio, was a monster as a child and it is interesting in reading how the parents would react. Also who the freak keeps a tapeworm in a jar. I was honestly surprised that the girl, Rita, didn’t die because of her brother.

Now Quimet, I could go on and on about him being a horrible husband. He was abusive. We are only shown one instance of physical abuse (iirc) but that paragraph ends with “From then on he played that joke a lot” (44) making it known that it happened many times after that. He would also take Natalia on a motorcycle when she was clearly afraid of riding it. ALSO he did even call her Natalia, he called her Colometa!

The whole thing with saying “Poor Maria” (46) and talking about Maria seeing the motorcycle was just plain weird. If he had a dead wife or something he should have told Natalia that and not had her think that she can’t do things to Maria’s standards.

Now going to the book itself, Mercè Rodoreda’s The Time of the Doves starts off a little slow. It took my a while to get into it. It is also interesting how it isn’t split into chapters. You can tell when a new one starts because of formatting, but it is not split obviously. I did like the writing style. The whole book and a sort of sadness layered over it that stayed even during the happy/celebratory scenes.

The doves were a major part of the book for good reason, but main thing that they symbolized for me (without going super deep into it) was their relation to their wealth and how they are getting along, but also Natalia’s mental health. With the war starting and them becoming poorer, the doves also are hit and do not have enough to eat. Many of the doves leave, like the some citizens of Natalia’s city and other refugees that were fleeing the war. The doves also showed the “second shift” that women have (the doves might actually make it a third shift) to do once they get home from work. Women work, then come home to take care of the kids and the housework, while the men do not.

My discussion question is: Do you think that Natalia was only going to kill her children or herself as well? Do you think she would have been able to go through with it if Antonio Sr. hadn’t called her back to the shop?

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Freud would have loved this one

Like many of the other posts, this made me a uncomfortable. The vibe of the book was a little off to me. It was a great book to read and it was an easy red (compared to Proust and Bombal), but it still was uncomfortable.

Right of the bat, the way the mother acted around her son, and how she acted with Renzo around her son sent warning signals to my head. The reason I hesitate to say the she was in the wrong (That’s not exactly the word I’m looking for, but it’ll have to work) is because this is told from Agostino’s perspective and a 13-year-old who is going through puberty and is learning about sex for the first time might not be the most reliable narrator. But just in the first couple of chapters, the people around Agostino were very sexual. Agostino’s mother “would remove the top of her bathing suit and lower the bottoms so as to expose her whole body to the sunlight” (p. 5). Sandro in p. 32 explains what sex is to him, which is’t very sexual in the context I am discussing but then he goes on to let the boys, “show him how to do it” (p. 32).

They all were weirdly sexual around a 13-year-old. Some of the comments that the boys make also sound very sexual, especially because they had just had this talk. An example being when Tortima tells Agostino to jump into the water and Agostino says he has clothes on. Tortima responds with “Now I’m goign to tear them off of you” (p. 37).

The whole scene with Saro and Agostino in the boat on the way to Rio also is very uncomfortable. Not only because of how Saro is acting. but also because Agostino himself is very uncomfortable during it. This whole scene makes me uncomfortable and makes me think why a grown man hangs out with teenagers.

During that scene there was also something about the black boy which was the reason he didn’t come on the boat with Saro and Agostino but I did not pick up on what it was.

I am running out of words here so here is my question:

Do you guys think that Agostino’s mom was being inappropriate with the way she acted or was it just weird?

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Thoughts on “The Shrouded Woman”

First things first, this was so much easier to read than Proust’s Combray. This would be a type of book I would pick up when I am in a sad/depressed mood. That made it a little difficult to read because these past few week I have been in a mood for fun books filled with love and not heartbreak and death. But going back to Proust, I really liked this writing style compared to his. There was still a lot of description, but the description was important. Connecting it to our in-class discussion, there were some habits described in this books as well, though they were not as focused on as they were in Proust. Maria Griselda’s walking path, the firefly that greets her and also the toad that waits for Maria when she goes horseback riding.

 

It is an interesting way of writing of about a characters life by starting off with them being dead and then, what I assume, is having them go to places and re-live the memories. (At least that is what I understood from the “Arise, come!” lines that would break up the different memories.

 

I do have to say that I still don’t completely understand how Ricardo knows them. I’m pretty sure Ricardo is Aunt Isabel’s son, which makes him Alicia’s brother. To be honest, I actually thought it was incest at first because Ana Maria said that Alicia is her sister, and I missed the part where she mentions that they aren’t blood sisters but their families are close so they call each other parents uncle and aunt. (While writing this, I went back and read the section and realized I was not reading it correctly. Alicia and Anna Maria are sisters. Ricardo considered them to be his and his sister’s cousins because of how close their families were. They, therefore, called each other’s parents aunt and uncle. This still gives a little incest-y to me because what do you mean that the girl you grew up with (?) and saw as a sister is someone you get together with???).

 

During my first read through, (I have not read it again), the end of Ricardo’s part, it seemed to be hinting at a miscarriage?? “Silent and tearful, she spent the rest of the night mopping up the flow of blood in which your flesh joined with mine was slowly disintegrating” (pg. 175). This screams miscarriage to me and it not discussed afterwards and there is no mention of it. I can’t imagine the trauma it would have been on Ana Maria mentally, but also physically.

Speaking of trauma, her husband Antonio is abusive. He literally rapes her in the beginning and manipulates her into thinking that he loves her.

It is interesting in seeing what memories she was seeing. It makes me wonder, is trauma the thing that connects all these memories? Even if it is a love memory, is it connected to something traumatic that happened before that is only mentioned in the memory?

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Proust is giving… Freud

First off, not a fan. I found this to be a hard read. There was a lot of fluff in the first part, well in both parts, but I feel like it was worse in the first part. I read fanfiction and I have definitely read stories with a lot of fluff and filler stuff, but I it works because I already know the characters. I think using fluff is ok as long as the characters are established, but using fluff to establish the characters makes it boring. 

 

The whole Mommy’s boy and the waiting to kiss Mommy’s cheek was kinda giving Freud. But then learning about his aunt and how he used to kiss her cheek and that she passed away makes me wonder if he needed to kiss his mom’s cheek to reassure himself that she was still here and didn’t pass away. A trauma thing perhaps? What was kinda funny was that I forgot this was originally in French and thought it was weird that he was kissing his uncle’s cheek. But them being French makes so much more sense. It still makes him being such a mommy’s boy weird, but the kissing his aunt’s cheek and his uncles less weird, because it was as if he was just greeting them. (Oh also I just remembered, I went from talking about walking up from dreaming about a girl between his legs to talking about sleep and dreams to talking about his mom. I honestly forgot that he talked about the girl and I thought he was young, like a kid, underaged. But I remembered that and the fact that he is an adult and still needs his mother to kiss him goodnight otherwise he can’t sleep?)

Just by looking at the biggest tag on the website you can tell that this one is about memory, but what I found interesting was that the biggest part of the (I don’t recall the word for it) hidden memory? Or the sensory items, such as the tea and the madeleine, that brought back the memory was such a short part of Combray. It goes on to more memories in the second part, but I thought that it would be made clearer that it was connected to that moment.

 

Overall, I find that it was a tough read, but something I probably would find interesting if it was contemporary? (I’m not sure if I used that correctly). But like if it was written now. The really long sentences with 8 commas and 4 different analogies/metaphors/examples ends up making my mind wander and distract me from what the original thought/text was.

 

My question is: what is the point of introducing characters (giving detailed background info/describing them/naming them) that are then never brought up again? (e.g. The Courtesan, Eulalie, Bloch. Actually I don’t think I can include the courtesan in this list, because she was not named. Now that I think more of it, there is more story to come, so they might come back…) 

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Introduction to me!

Hello everyone! I’m Jasleen. I am a third-year student majoring in Sociology and minoring in Family Studies. Right now I am really into listening to Punjabi music. I’m not a person that looks for new music, I stick with the ones I know and my friends tend to introduce me to new songs. In high school I took AP Lit, and out of the four books we read I had enjoyed Metamorphosis by Franz Kafka. I wonder which of these literary pieces I will enjoy the most. I hope that this “book club” is as fun as my high school “book club”!

 

I am one of the people that read some Shakespeare in his original text. I found it to be a lot of fun to read aloud, even though I didn’t understand it at points and had to read the modern translation. Reading it out loud made it more interesting which makes sense since it is a play. 

 

The only other course I have taken in uni in which I read books was ASTU 100 in first year and I honestly wasn’t a big fan of the books but it was interesting to hear others discussing contemporary literature instead of classical literature discussions. 

 

I decided to take this course because I need it to fulfill a requirement. I decided to stay and keep the course because of the interesting format and grading system. I also hope that this course gets me back into reading, as reading with academic literature and textbooks for other courses have put me a bit off.

 

I expect to like this course, even if I am not a fan of the reading because of the structure of the course and the choices that we can make. I am hoping to find new classical books that I enjoy. I am also excited to buy more books. I’m a book dragon, I tend to buy more books even though I have a large stack that needs to be read. I like that we choose between two books as it should split the class somewhat evenly and it’s easier to discuss among smaller groups.

 

As I’m writing this I realize that my blogs will not have seamless transitions between points and I’m just putting what comes to mind straight onto the blog.

 

I really can’t wait to start discussing the books because people may interpret things differently and it’s interesting to see different points of views.

Thanks for reading my ramblings!

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