{"id":1445,"date":"2026-07-06T12:01:19","date_gmt":"2026-07-06T19:01:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/swkx\/?page_id=1445"},"modified":"2026-07-06T12:07:41","modified_gmt":"2026-07-06T19:07:41","slug":"episode-7-2","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/swkx\/episodes\/episode-7-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 7"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\" style=\"font-size:35px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400\">Namastables: Building Capacity for the Future of Animal-Included Therapy<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text has-media-on-the-right is-stacked-on-mobile\"><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThere certainly can be a huge amount of power for anyone of any age when they&#8217;re coming alongside an animal who&#8217;s had a similar life experience, and they have this moment of, &#8220;I&#8217;ve been through the same thing, too. The animal gets me. We get each other.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Kirsten Hargreaves<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"344\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/swkx\/files\/2026\/07\/Screenshot-2026-07-05-at-11.42.45-AM-1024x344.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1458 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/swkx\/files\/2026\/07\/Screenshot-2026-07-05-at-11.42.45-AM-1024x344.png 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/swkx\/files\/2026\/07\/Screenshot-2026-07-05-at-11.42.45-AM-300x101.png 300w, https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/swkx\/files\/2026\/07\/Screenshot-2026-07-05-at-11.42.45-AM-768x258.png 768w, https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/swkx\/files\/2026\/07\/Screenshot-2026-07-05-at-11.42.45-AM-1536x515.png 1536w, https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/swkx\/files\/2026\/07\/Screenshot-2026-07-05-at-11.42.45-AM-1200x403.png 1200w, https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/swkx\/files\/2026\/07\/Screenshot-2026-07-05-at-11.42.45-AM.png 1794w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<script async defer onload=\"redcircleIframe();\" src=\"https:\/\/api.podcache.net\/embedded-player\/sh\/f2ac19c9-a769-4adb-91fb-ad7b67558f1f\/ep\/7d9e8ed6-5db1-4235-9052-4a17de4c3c6f\"><\/script>\n    <div class=\"redcirclePlayer-7d9e8ed6-5db1-4235-9052-4a17de4c3c6f\"><\/div>\n    <style>\n    .redcircle-link:link {\n        color: #ea404d;\n        text-decoration: none;\n    }\n    .redcircle-link:hover {\n        color: #ea404d;\n    }\n    .redcircle-link:active {\n        color: #ea404d;\n    }\n    .redcircle-link:visited {\n        color: #ea404d;\n    }\n<\/style>\n<p style=\"margin-top:3px;margin-left:11px;font-family: sans-serif;font-size: 10px; color: gray;\">Powered by <a class=\"redcircle-link\" href=\"https:\/\/redcircle.com?utm_source=rc_embedded_player&#038;utm_medium=web&#038;utm_campaign=embedded_v1\">RedCircle<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-accent-background-color has-background wp-element-button\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/swkx\/files\/2026\/07\/Namastables-Transcript.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">TRANSCRIPT<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-fill\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-accent-background-color has-background wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/7smBhRxSi7swxEWJhKJr2a?si=k5noRK4vR5q_m06HfVlqOg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">SPOTIFY<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-accent-background-color has-background wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/namastables-building-capacity-for-the-future-of\/id1778292903?i=1000775693762\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">APPLE PODCASTS<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">About the Episode<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode, Jacqueline Wright, founder of Namastables Wellness, Kirstin Hargreaves, Associate Professor and Registered Clinical Counsellor, and Jonathan Boudin, Animal-Included Clinical Counsellor, explore the philosophy and practice of animal-included therapy. Drawing on their work at Namastables Wellness, an animal-included wellness centre and nonprofit in the Lower Mainland of British Columbia, they discuss the unique considerations of practicing alongside animals and the reciprocal relationships that support the wellbeing of both humans and animals. They also reflect on the growth of animal-included therapy and Namastables&#8217; commitment to community engagement, education, and mentorship, helping to build capacity for future practitioners and advance ethical animal-included practice in a good way for everyone.<br><br><strong>Timestamps<\/strong><br>01:14 &#8211; Getting to Know: Jaqueline Wright<br>01:20 &#8211; Getting to Know: Kirstin Hargreaves<br>01:35 \u2013 Getting to Know Jonathan Boudin<br>02:50 \u2013 The Story Behind Namastables Wellness0<br>6:26 \u2013 Journeys to Animal-Included Therapy<br>11:39 &#8211; Values of Practicing Animal-Included Therapy<br>17:11 \u2013 Being and Practicing at the Forefront of Emerging Research<br>28:23 \u2013 Looking Forward to the Next Generation<br><br><strong>Mentioned in this Episode:<\/strong><br><a href=\"https:\/\/namastables.ca\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Namastables<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/horseshit.ca\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">#Horseshit<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gofundme.com\/f\/supporting-a-healer-who-now-needs-healing?attribution_id=sl:2638efe2-a707-4d44-960c-eccb882c5a37&amp;lang=en_CA&amp;ts=1766254962&amp;utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&amp;utm_medium=customer&amp;utm_source=copy_link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">GoFundMe<\/a><a id=\"_msocom_1\"><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Our Guests<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"font-size:17px\"><strong>Kirsten Hargreaves<\/strong>, Chair and Associate Professor, BA-CYC Program and Animal Included Clinical Counsellor\u00a0<br>Kirsten Hargreaves is the Chair of the BA-CYC Degree program at UFV, an Associate Professor and a Registered Clinical Counsellor specializing in children ages 3-12 focusing\u00a0in\u00a0animal included\u00a0counselling. Kirsten is an internationally recognized speaker having presented in Portugal, Ireland and across Canada. Kirsten\u2019s Doctoral work focuses\u00a0in\u00a0canine included therapy.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"font-size:17px\"><strong>Jonathan Boudin<\/strong>, Animal Included Clinical Counsellor&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Jonathan Boudin is a Registered Clinical Counsellor focusing&nbsp;in&nbsp;animal included and equine included counselling as well as a certified synergetic play therapist (May 2026). His own experiences growing up with horses significantly contributed to his career path in mental health and in his passion for working with youth.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"font-size:17px\"><strong>Jacqueline Wright<\/strong>, Animal Included Wellness Facilitator&nbsp;<br>Jacqueline Wright is the founder of Namastables Wellness, an&nbsp;animal included&nbsp;wellness&nbsp;centre&nbsp;in Langley, BC that blends mental wellness,&nbsp;therapy&nbsp;and animal rescue in the healing presence of animals. Her work explores&nbsp;connection,&nbsp;resilience and the profound ways animals can help us heal.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"403\" height=\"141\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/swkx\/files\/2025\/06\/image.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1206\" style=\"width:157px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/swkx\/files\/2025\/06\/image.png 403w, https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/swkx\/files\/2025\/06\/image-300x105.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 403px) 100vw, 403px\" \/><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Namastables: Building Capacity for the Future of Animal-Included Therapy \u201cThere certainly can be a huge amount of power for anyone of any age when they&#8217;re coming alongside an animal who&#8217;s had a similar life experience, and they have this moment of, &#8220;I&#8217;ve been through the same thing, too. The animal gets me. 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