{"id":62,"date":"2016-02-10T22:12:47","date_gmt":"2016-02-11T05:12:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/tbarrozo\/?p=62"},"modified":"2016-02-10T23:30:33","modified_gmt":"2016-02-11T06:30:33","slug":"time-travelling","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/tbarrozo\/?p=62","title":{"rendered":"Time Travelling"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hello Everyone!<\/p>\n<p>This week and last week in ASTU, we discussed poetry. I didn\u2019t really appreciate poetry before last week. But when I was reading W.H. Auden\u2019s \u201cSeptember 1, 1939\u201d,\u00a0 I became fond of it. I\u2019ve heard of Auden before last week with names like Orwell, Dickens, and Austen, so I thought he was a novelist. I really admire their work and his poem since it felt\u00a0like I was travelling through time. Maybe it\u2019s because he uses words we don\u2019t often use now or maybe it\u2019s because he mentioned Nijinsky (whose <a href=\"http:\/\/www.russianballethistory.com\/nijinskythelegend.htm\">story<\/a> was very very interesting). I just felt like I gained more knowledge of his era since I had to google what was happening when he was writing this poem.<\/p>\n<p>Even though we associated \u201cSeptember 1, 1939\u201d with 9\/11 in class, with how I read it, I didn\u2019t really think there was much association. Sure, there was grieving and fear in both. But then, if we just find poems with grief and fear, then we would find thousands of poems.<\/p>\n<p>The poem also reminded me of Saal\u2019s trauma transfer which is seeing your own suffering from someone else\u2019s perspective. For instance, the victims of 9\/11 were reading Auden\u2019s poem and seeing their suffering instead of the suffering of those people during that time. I don\u2019t want to argue that it depreciated the suffering of the people in the past or the victims of Dresden, but I think trauma transfer is just saying that traumas are connected, that maybe World War II victims experienced the same emotions that 9\/11 victims are going through.<\/p>\n<p>But the thing is, that idea is still fundamentally wrong. They\u2019re not experiencing the same things. They\u2019re not feeling the same emotions. If Auden\u2019s poem was passed around after 9\/11 and the victims can relate, that\u2019s fine. But we have to look further at the poem. For me, it is more than grief and fear. It\u2019s about love. It\u2019s about politics. It\u2019s about Facism, Nationalism, and dictators. It\u2019s about Auden himself. It may even be about New York (which I thought was a bit ironic). Of course, that\u2019s the best thing about poetry (or literature). There\u2019s no right interpretation. But I think it would be fair if we look at the trauma of those people in Auden\u2019s time as well.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Even Saal argued this idea. She mentioned Simon Goldberg who was a Jew during WWII in <i>Extremely Loud &amp; Incredibly Close <\/i>and concluded:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><em>Oskar&#8217;s voice might sound the loudest at the end, but underneath it we can\u2014if we choose to\u2014still decipher those other voices haunting the text, defying closure and facile appropriation: the distant voices of grandma and grandpa Schell and, above all, the muted voice of Simon Goldberg (473).\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Oskar here may or can represent 9\/11 while Simon Goldberg as a victim of WWII. Both Saal and I urge everyone to consider other victims as well. This doesn\u2019t necessarily mean victims of the past but victims everywhere. We don\u2019t have to look at them equally\u00a0but at least consider their <em>&#8216;habit-forming pain, mismanagement and grief&#8217;.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hello Everyone! This week and last week in ASTU, we discussed poetry. I didn\u2019t really appreciate poetry before last week. But when I was reading W.H. Auden\u2019s \u201cSeptember 1, 1939\u201d,\u00a0 I became fond of it. I\u2019ve heard of Auden before last week with names like Orwell, Dickens, and Austen, so I thought he was a novelist. I really admire their work and his poem since it felt\u00a0like I was travelling through time. Maybe it\u2019s because he uses words we don\u2019t often use now or maybe it\u2019s because he mentioned Nijinsky&#8230;<a class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/tbarrozo\/?p=62\">read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[831545],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-62","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-astu","et-no-image","et-bg-layout-dark","et-white-bg"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/tbarrozo\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/tbarrozo\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/tbarrozo\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/tbarrozo\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/tbarrozo\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=62"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/tbarrozo\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":68,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/tbarrozo\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62\/revisions\/68"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/tbarrozo\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=62"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/tbarrozo\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=62"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ubc.ca\/tbarrozo\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=62"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}