The following is an exchange between Josh Illig, Sales and Marketing Manager – Institutions, jillig@conferencearchives.com and me about his work in using technologies to record the knowledge exchange at scientific meetings. Josh works for an organization in the United States called Conference Archives, Inc. (CAI) ; here, he discusses his role at CAI as well as the importance of event-based science – a term that I think is self-explanatory, but it essentially amounts to making digitally-accessible the evidence, information and knowledge presented at annual biomedical conferences and meetings.
(For some idea of how Ekatius™ works, see the 2007 American Association for Thoracic Surgery Meeting presentations.)
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Interview with Josh Illig, Conference Archives Inc.
1. Tell my readers a little bit about your background and the work you do with Ekatius. Talk about what Ekatius is, and how it would be of interest to educators, academics and physicians.
“My name is Josh Illig and I have a B.A. in English and a Master’s degree in Education, however I want to say that I’m a big supporter of libraries, and of self-directed learning. I work for Conference Archives, Inc (CAI) which has been digitally capturing, producing, and archiving meeting presentations (audio, slides, etc.) since 2001.
CAI produces Ekatius, which is a platform solution to aid in the accessibility, discoverability, and exposure issues for scientific conferences – what we are calling event-based science (EBS). It has been estimated that abstracts accepted for presentation at biomedical meetings have only a 45% publication rate within six years of presentation. With Ekatius, associations can make their events available on the Web in one place and disseminate it to educators, academics, and physicians globally.
While I have an affinity for print materials, as having a book in your hands is a convenience that cannot be replicated, I also believe in the power of rich media.”
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2. We’ve collaborated on an article for the JMLA, but I wonder if you could briefly discuss this paper and the concept of rich-media and “event-based science”.
“The paper deals with the value of recording event-based science (EBS) and the rise of rich media in the post-textual web. Since learning about the meetings industry, I am surprised that EBS is not captured systematically, or disseminated beyond a meeting’s physical boundaries. After all, are meetings and conferences not comprised of the ‘best and brightest’ researchers in a given field?
In conversations I had with medical librarians at the MLA 2007, I heard that EBS is sought after by information professionals but hard to locate. After reviewing the literature, we learned that the publication rate for papers at conferences was incredibly low, estimated to be around 45%.
So our article explores the importance of capturing, aggregating, and disseminating EBS in rich media formats. Although capturing research is important, the rich media format is what changes its dissemination. Rich media takes the user beyond text by synchronizing multiple modes of information presentation – from audio to slides to video and beyond. The technology aligns with learning theories and reinforces the idea that information retention occurs when multiple senses or ‘intelligences’ are actively engaged in learning.”
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3. PubMed is starting to index audiovisual content (Search for the phrase “Videos in clinical medicine” at pubmed.gov) and the TRIP database will soon include pod- and vodcasts in its search results. This is the rise of non-text; do you think that this material should be indexed in MEDLINE and made more easily findable in Google and Google scholar?
“Absolutely. However, the challenge we face is how to index non-text, an issue that continues to arise for indexers. Google Scholar crawls text only, so for 30-minute presentations of synchronized audio and slides, will GS index that knowledge? Without a detailed abstract (or metadata), it will not be findable.
I feel very strongly that the audiovisual side of the web will be important for the training of future physicians. Millennials make up 18% of the current physician workforce in the U.S and this number will only increase as the Baby Boomers retire. Millennials are a ‘tech-savvy’ generation and prefer multiple modes of information presentation.
If you link the learning styles and preferences of new Web users, the indexing of A/V and rich media content is a no-brainer, and essential – but we have to capture it and archive it first.”
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4. If medical organizations are considering videotaping their conferences for later broadcasting on the Web, what do you recommend they do in terms of planning for that? How much money is required to made an entire day’s worth of content available through Ekatius?
“First, I suggest that the association identify its purpose: is it for a CE course, a members-only resource library, etc.? To whom will the meeting be directed, institutions, consumers or members? Answers to these questions provide direction for recording a presentation, and raise important issues such as the recording quality and format required.
Associations can identify reputable audiovisual or archiving vendors that have knowledge of the meeting industry. Vendors should take associations through the process of recording live recordings, and help them achieve the best possible recordings for their desired aims.
Our mission at Ekatius is to increase the accessibility, discoverability, and exposure of EBS regardless of an organization’s size. We are willing to work with any association and have developed revenue-sharing models to ease or eliminate the financial commitment of large and small organizations.
When it comes to money and education, I’m reminded of an exchange I had with my dad when deciding whether to go to college. My argument was that I didn’t want to pay thousands of dollars for a ‘piece of paper,’ and his reply was that “education is no burden to carry around.” Six years and two ‘pieces of paper’ later, I’ve come to see the wisdom of those words.”
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5. Where do you think the Web is going? What will it look like in five years?
“I see the Web being a more complete and dynamic ‘marketplace of ideas’ with the free flow of information and collaboration. Social networking, bookmarking, and user-created content will make it possible for new Web users to ultimately take total control of media.
More importantly, I see the Web as the vehicle for breaking down information and networking silos and bringing people of unlikely backgrounds and expertise together. For instance, I see the future of the web as a place where an engineer can go to a website, read/view content both within and outside of his specialty, and contact and collaborate with an expert in a completely unrelated field. If you think about it, this should be a completely natural occurrence due to the informational overlap that occurs not only within medicine but across all disciplines.
Let’s remove barriers to knowledge exchange, and, as Pink Floyd says: “Tear down the Wall!”