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Garcilaso versus Guaman, and other thoughts

I was absolutely fascinated by Garcilaso’s commentary on the Inkas! I’d read bits and pieces of the text in other courses, but never as extensively as this. It was so awesome. As I read, I was subconsciously scanning for elements of Guaman Poma, as they are somewhat similar (chronicling from a mestizo perspective); pushing Catholicism, confusion as to where he belonged, etc. Unlike Poma, Garcilaso seemed to be quite assertive about his place. Unless to validate his royalty, Poma referred to the ‘Indians’ and the ‘Spanish’ from a third-person point of view. Garcilaso seemingly embraced his Indigenous roots, incorporating his uncle’s oral account with heaping praise and the utmost attention to detail. This contrast in belonging raises some interesting questions; was there any particular reason why Garcilaso had a stronger sense of belonging to either group? Of course, Garcilaso later moves to Spain and becomes Catholic. But he was sure of his place in either sphere. It seems that Guaman Poma never had that sense of security, and I wonder why. Perhaps it was just their personalities? I also loved how the two chroniclers had drastically different rhetoric, and viewpoints for that matter, in terms of the Inka. Poma frequented the words ‘infidel’, ‘heathen’, and ‘idolatrous’; this isn’t to say he also didn’t heap praise onto the Inka. But Garcilaso had no such words for the Inka; instead, he glorified almost every aspect of their reign. This may be an oversimplification of their viewpoints, but I wonder which perspective (Catholic-leaning v. Inka-leaning, so to speak) more accurately reflects the beliefs of mestizos during the earliest decades of conquest? It would be ignorant to discount the role power would have played in the formation of these beliefs, as Spanish domination could have forced the Inka-leaning viewpoints out of the mainstream discourse. Furthermore, assuming that any Indigenous Andeans didn’t maintain an Inka-leaning sentiment – or that it is such a clear-cut question – is harmful. Structural oppression and domination play enormous roles in shaping the ‘approved’ discourse of the oppressed; that is, what becomes representative, or what may be recorded. Thus, I pose my question of Garcilaso versus Guaman within this framework, not wishing to simplify or generalize the views of Indigenous Andeans facing an oppressive colonial system. Maybe a better way to word this would be Garcilaso or Guaman. Or both? I would be very interested to hear other interpretations of the similarities/differences between these two chroniclers. Are they more alike then I have given them credit for?

By jshoudy

I'm entering my third year as a student at UBC, majoring in socio-cultural anthropology.

3 replies on “Garcilaso versus Guaman, and other thoughts”

“Of course, Garcilaso later moves to Spain and becomes Catholic. But he was sure of his place in either sphere. It seems that Guaman Poma never had that sense of security, and I wonder why.” Although el Inca Garcilaso was already Catholic when he settled in Spain, I think I understand what you mean. It was a great strategy on your part to compare both authors. It is true, seen from there it seems that Inca Garcilaso is more rooted in a Westernized vision of the past. Perhaps the difference also consists of what each one wanted to achieve with their texts and the own positionality showed in their books. Which of the two was more vulnerable? Who had the most to gain or lose?

Hi Julian, I really enjoy your writing as it is very genuinely curious. I really enjoy how you pose so many questions in the beginning of your paragraphs and before I have a chance to think about them you give such insightful answers. I particularily thought your point about the Spanish power’s push of discourse as a form of shaping identity espcially insightful. Thank you for sharing,

– Annie

Hi Julian,

We really got into a lot of questions that you raised in our subsequent classes! I really think it’s harder to straightforwardly interpret Guaman Poma as opposed to Garcilaso. I sort of suspect that Poma had a strong sense of belonging in both groups, but in his writing he has to walk a more careful political line. Very interesting insights!

Gabriel

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