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Who would have thought it?

In this first section of the book, Maria Amparo Ruiz de Burton paints a portrait of a seemingly elitist New England family, whose members are exposed to a foreigner, Lola, and need to accept her in their family. Ruiz de Burton creates a sharp contrast between Mrs. Norval and Dr. Norval, leading the reader to ponder why he would marry such an ignorant and miserable woman, as he appears to be more open minded and clearly educated. It is important to mention, though, that the Doctor seemed to have been similar in thought to Mrs. Norval before his travels, highlighting an important lesson that it is unrealistic to have unbiased thoughts towards something different if we have not experienced it. In this case, the experience of traveling and being exposed to Lola’s culture has showed Dr. Norval that others are not that different at all. For the time period in which this is set, this is quite an accomplishment for the Doctor.
The contrast created between the characters, which is mostly achieved through dialog between them, is an effective way to convey the thoughts of the characters while advancing the plot of the story. Mrs. Norval’s words around a group of characters often create seemingly very awkward situations. However, it is apparant that she believes that her life is ideal and thinks highly of herself, even though she simply lives on a pedestal and fails to explore things outside her own little world. This thought process leads her to be stereotypical and ignorant.
I find the short chapter format to lack efficiency in this book so far. The author is not trying to make the plot seem fast paced, or provide a juxtaposition between characters or settings. Therefore the plot seems a bit broken and the exploration of stories and characters seem to be lacking in depth.
For the upcoming section of the book, it will be interesting to see the inclusion of religion, especially with the upbringing that is wished for Lola, while Mrs. Norval attempts to mold Lola into something she believes to be ideal. So far, the writing has been cleaver, and I look forward to finding out more about the story.

What I Would Have Thought

As I scratched the surface of the pink book, it revealed a brilliant shine similar to na Hala’s rough pebbles. The story seems to occur on different levels, the surface story being the lives of the Norvals, their adopted Spanish child and the people around them. Gossip surrounds the adoption of Lola. Some link the increasing acquisition of the Norval’s wealth to the possibility that Lola directed them to gold. Reverend Hackwell contributes to more talk about the family through his sermons.

The novel is filled with all sorts of communication. Perhaps it is the author’s conscious choice that the story begins with a conversation between Reverend Hackwell and Reverend Hammerhead. But perhaps the unspoken should be given more attention to what is said.

Dr. Norval had asked Lebrun to transcribe the final words of Lola’s Mother. The letter gets lost and ends up in the dead-letter office. Isaac, Dr. Norval’s brother-in-law, stumbles upon the letter and decides to keep it.

A series of questions surrounded the disappearance of the letter in my head. It is almost too coincidental that a series of Isaac’s misfortunes ultimately leads to his discovery of the letter. At certain times, the author also makes her presence known for the second time by writing “[w]e will give a whole chapter to her patriotism in due” (69) despite the novel being written from a third person’s perspective.

The close proximity between the association between omnipotence of the narrator and God makes the author’s interventions almost seem miraculous. Perhaps it mirrors confusion. Is it the parent’s decision to choose the religion for the child?
The brilliance of the novel is seen through underlying layers of questions as such. Because of Lola’s dark complexion, Mrs. Norval automatically assumes that she is only either of African or Indian descent. She does not take into account any other race that falls in the non-white category nor is she interested in finding out. But perhaps the bigger question is that of class. Does social standing (defined by wealth) matter more than race or gender? Mrs. Norval was willing to be Lola’s servant after seeing the gold, diamond and opals. She even entertained the idea of being Lola’s mother-in-law. Perhaps on the same level, Dr. Norval thinks class is the bigger discrimination as well. He says that through Lola’s wealth, the color of her skin will melt and she will find a suitable husband.

Who would have thought it?

Although during the first 2 pages I thought a more appropriate title would be “Who would have bought it?” I’m actually quite intrigued with it now, and am quite fond of the Dr. Norval, though I question his choice in marrying such a shrewd woman. I do find it so far that the male characters seem to be far less vicious and prejudiced than the females, yet at the same time find myself sympathizing with all the female characters in their unwanted social roles. Who knew that marriage could be worse than is today? I didn’t realize that book was so antiquated, until they mentioned the year directly I believed it to be more recent, because the dialogue isn’t as far removed from modern speech as I would usually associate 19th century literature to be.

So far the bigotry of some characters in the novel is so profane it’s difficult for me to imagine, however, I love the fact that there exists characters that do in face set themselves apart through genuine concern and proverbial mindset. Reading below I see that some don’t appreciate the descriptive manner of writing in which she uses and mentioning the historical background, but I see it as a strength rather than a weakness, as the book may lose it’s context should that not be included. Her storytelling stays consistent in regards to both its literary quality and its obvious historical accuracy, as it was written so quickly after such events would have transpired. I enjoy also how there are references to better explain the context of the writing. Despite the morbidity of social injustice the book conveys, I still enjoy the humour we see is evident as the neighbours gossip about each other and use mockery I think is ahead of its time.

ruiz de burton… what a woman!

I find it very interesting that so many class members have found Who Would Have Thought It? to be such a tedious and frustrating read. I have loved every minute of it! This woman has got spunk! I have found myself laughing out loud at frequent intervals throughout the novel, mostly out of appreciation for Ruiz de Burton’s unrelenting boldness. Her tone is so blatantly bitter and cynical, and yet some of her criticisms are so subtle that she manages to achieve a certain harmony within the text. I have read certain chapters multiple times and from each additional reading, I take something different away. The fact that she dared to write something so politically inflammatory and outwardly critical of her society in 1872 warrants a great deal of respect. For a woman to write a novel as opinionated and socially critical as Who Would Have Thought It? would be a bold move today. For her to have proclaimed such a strong message at a time of such widespread narrow-mindedness, therefore, was no less than courageous.

I find it ironic that Rosaura Sànchez and Beatrice Pita’s introduction mentions Ruiz de Burton’s concern that readers would “find fault with her text” (vii). Not only does she raise a multitude of insightful points, but she expresses them in a very eloquent manner. I particularly enjoy the use of Greek mythological characters for the names of her own characters. I love the melodramatic characters, I love the sarcasm and I love the extent to which the novel condemns the horrendously racist viewpoints of the late ninteenth century. So far I say well done, Ruiz de Burton, and I look forward to the rest of the novel!

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I find that the story of “who would have thought?” is not really a a great story but it allows through a story line to show difference between certain groups by using contrast. for example It uses contrast between races, how different people of one race it treated compared to that of another especially when it comes to the case of Lola when arriving at the home she is even compared to an animal just because she is of dark colour (which later turns to be a dye). This contrast is also seen a lot when you compare her to Emma which Mrs. Norval approves for her son. You can also see two opposite sides when it comes to religion Mrs.Norval being a Presbyterians and Lola being Roman catholic you can see in page 66 how she perceive the catholic Mrs. Norval says “but my religion is a rational one , not an obsurd beliefin images and saints , and relics and holy water.” You see a very big difference in general between Dr.Norval and misses Norval they oppose in religion, in politics and in their view of others. I believe this difference is due to the fact that he has travelled and been more in contact with other cultures. In the story we also see how men and woman of that time were contrasted especially when Lavvy tries to help her brother who is in jail, for example Mr.Brown tells her “I see you don;t grasp the idea. Of course, ladies can’t well grasp great ideas”(114) So by using contast the writer allows us to see the ideas of that time.

Who Would have thought it? #1

While it was hard to get into the spirit of this book in the beginning, it’s definitely starting to get more interesting the more I read. The thing that struck me the most of all in the early pages was the ambivalent feelings I had towards the arrival of the little black girl. While the words coming out of the mouths of the Norval girls were appalling, they are no different from things we hear today in society. The only difference was how acceptable it was to bash others just because of the colour of their skin. Nowadays I believe such comments would receive a much harsher reaction from others.
Another thing that struck me was how unresponsive the family was to the arrival of Mr. Norval. Having been gone for 4 years, I would have thought his family would be a little more excited to see him. On the other hand, Mr. Norval was not much different. What kind of family values did this family have, and is this a reflection of the times represented in this tale?
As the story goes on, I’m curious to see what other sort of commotion is caused by the presence of the little girl, and how she is to be integrated not only with her new family but with all those that come across her in the book.
Living in Canada, which is such a multicultural country, I believe we have somewhat of a different approach to having people of so many cultures and origins living together. We are more accepting of immigrants, as many us us are just that. Once in a high school socials studies class we were told to raise our hands progressively to inform the class if we were first, second, third generation Canadians and so forth. Not one person had had their great grandparents born in Canada. Due to this, I’m inclined to think that if a little black girl came into our lives, we would act differently than the Norval family.

Ruiz de Burton – section 1

So far into Ruiz de Burton’s novel, I am extremely pleased with this reading. I love that there are times where her characters are drenched in sarcasm or the obviousness of her prejudices shines through like a blinding light. Much of the historical American references I am unfamiliar with, but from the book’s footnotes I can understand that Ruiz de Burton’s satirical nature runs deep within the veins of America’s colonial history, government, and society. Such as, when describing the reaction to headlines of treason, she writes: “Men and women were electrified What! to dare plot against ‘the best government on earth’!” (p. 68). Such a statement shows the rebellious, sarcastic nature of the author as it seems she could only express through her literature. Her writing displays her knowledge that she knows she isn’t the same as these proud and patriotic ‘pure-blooded’ Americans , but also that she doesn’t want to be like them. On the other hand, there were times while reading where I compared Ruiz de Burton to a revenge writer; feeling the sting of rejection and then writing compliments dripping with sarcasm directed towards her bullies.
As English is not Ruiz de Burton’s first language, I am astounded with her astonishing skill as an author. She captures much literary symbolism and wit using her second language. I especially enjoy the many references to Greek mythology made throughout the novel. This shows a vast education and the intelligence to apply it, especially for a woman in Ruiz de Burton’s era. She even cleverly titles chapter 8 as “The Trophies of Militiades Do Not Let Me Sleep.”, referring to Greek history and Themistocles’ resentment towards Militiades for what should have been his. I wonder if in these references she attempts to make these characters, these situations, or even the book itself ‘epic’.
On page 106, I felt that Ruiz de Burton was describing Lavinia much as she would describe herself; a latino-born woman living in colonial America:

“…[Lavinia] was reflecting that no matter how much a woman, in her unostentatious sphere may do, and help to do, and no matter how her heart may feel for her beloved, worshipped country, after all she is but an insignificant creature, whom a very young man may snub…”

Perhaps the author felt as though despite her best efforts, she was always seen as second-rate, due to both her spanish background AND being a woman.
I am especially intrigued with Lola’s part in the story as I feel that she may represent the triumph of the ‘foreigner’s spirit’ over Mrs. Norval’s portrayal of the underhanded, native-resident’s psyche. What happens between her and Julian in the pages to come may dictate the winner of this epic battle.

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I thought that the first half of this book was rich with hypocrisy and racism.  The racism aspect of the book is to be expected because the setting is during the American Civil War.  Mrs. Norval seems to be adamant about refusing to accept Lola’s heritage as a full blooded Spanish woman.  Because Lola’s skin is painted black she is treated with disrespect.  Since the black skin is a veil, this misconception leads to numerous examples of hypocrisy.  A standard northern abolitionist family believes in a degree of equality and fairness.  However Mrs. Norval seems to pick and choose when and where to be an abolitionist.  In the company of others she tones down her inherent racism. However, in the seclusion of her house and in the presence of her family she reveals her true feelings.  I feel as if she becomes a different person in social settings to seem progressive and to gain respect from her peers.

Religion is another example of hypocrisy in this book.   Lola’s mother specifically gave instructions to raise Lola as a roman catholic.  This came into conflict with the Protestant beliefs of the Norval family.   An example of this is on page sixty-six.  Mrs. Norval and Dr. Norval were having an argument about Lola’s religion.  Dr. Norval had asked if Mrs. Norval was on her deathbed and asked if she would want her children to be brought up Protestant.  She replies “…but my religion is a rational one, not an absurd belief in images, and saints, and relics, and holy water” (Burton, 66).  This role reversal that Dr. Norval imposed on his wife shows the double standards of that society.   She is essentially saying that the death wish of a Catholic woman should not be respected as opposed to the death wish of a Protestant woman simply because being Protestant is a superior faith to Catholicism.  This self-righteousness foreshadows what is to come in later chapters.

Who would have thought it?

First of all, I read of few of the first responses, and I have to disagree with this book being classified as a tedious read. In fact, I’ve found it pretty easy to move though, due in no small part to the author’s ability to acutely satirize the political and social norms of her time. She was clearly well educated in the classics and I find that those references add a lot of depth to the text (although I must say that I’m grateful for the notes, as many of them would have otherwise been lost on me). A perfect example of her wit and sarcasm is when she compares the blind and unwarranted praise and respect of his fellows (and President) that Julius Cackle inadvertently gained through cowardly actions to that of Tennyson’s reverence of the genuine bravery of Britain’s soldiers in The Charge of the Light Brigade. She also doesn’t hesitate to expose the ignorance of characters like Mrs. Norval and Mrs. Cackle in the ways of politics, like when Cackle speaks of the Habeas Corpus(es) as a group of people. These, of course, were carefully planted, but she could not have known that reading the book 135 years later, the audience would enjoy silly things like mentioning “the ragged little town of Hampton”, which I understand has since become quite the hot spot.

Considering that the theme here is racism and sexism and general social injustice for those of non-American blood (that idea itself being ridiculous in the young country of immigrants), I find it kind of remarkable that Ruiz de Burton lived through this and was able to overcome it to write such a well-referenced and educated account, in light of her then assumed “shortcomings”. If we can suppose that she encountered similar adversity to that of which she writes, I think this adds a very interesting level of comprehension to the book.

However, despite being well aware of both its historical and current manifestation in our society, I still find the blatant racism maddening to read. Of course it was rampant and pretty much accepted in this setting, but the hypocrisy of its supposed objectors is what gets to me (and is supposed to get me, I guess). Clearly, this is most obvious in Mrs. Norval’s character, and she is undoubtedly demonized for it, but even the good doctor and his shining son Julian cannot be free of blame. They are compassionate people, yes, but they would certainly not have showered such attention and love on the young Lola had she not so conveniently been of pure Spanish blood, strikingly beautiful and the benefactress of immense wealth. Too many hypocrisies to note. In any case, I find myself curious to see what will become of them all.