AI, The Savage Detectives, and Verbosity

My wife, Fiona, is reading The Savage Detectives. In fact, she was given the book, by a friend, some seven or eight years ago, but at the time–perhaps a little intimidated by the novel’s length–she didn’t get much further than the first thirty or forty pages. Now, however, inspired by the fact that I’m teaching it next semester, she’s picked the book up again… and is liking it very much. She’s racing through it, and is almost done.

But she’s not yet at Part Three. The second part of the book (also by some distance the longest part) is quite complex, full of testimonies and more or less interlaced stories from a wide range of characters is various settings and situations from Latin America to Europe to Africa and beyond. It can get quite confusing.

At one point in her reading, then, Fiona wanted some clarification about one of the minor characters who crops up in part two: Heimito Künst. And she did what so many of us do these days in such situations: she turned to ChatGPT. Here is the chat that resulted. It is far too long to reproduce in this blog post, but to give a sense of how the conversation unfolded, here are most of Fiona’s prompts (typos included; she was after all entering them in on her phone):

Explain the heimito kunst character in the savage detectives 

I thought he might have something wrong with him 

Why was he imprisoned?

Are you sure he was impassioned [imprisoned] in Latin America? I thought it was in Europe but I could be wrong 

What makes you say he was an artist? Is there evidence of this in the text?

Was he also in Israel with lima 

Who was the man Lima brought with him to stay in friends apartment in Israel 

I had thought it could be kunst

You are disappointing me

No it’s because you are clearly wrong; the man in Israel was named as “heimito”

Also he is the person Lima brings to his friends apartment. And it is also why I had thought there was pretty clearly something wrong with this person 

Well you’re wrong again. We do hear directly from him from his perspective in chapter 12

What does his fixation on Jews and Jewishness mean 

Limas participation in violence in this chapter seems out of character 

Well I mean the violence in Vienna 

Why have you been wrong so many times today? Basic stuff 

Yes 

Is he based on a real person

You got so much wrong that I don’t trust you. There is no evidence he was a poet or in Latin America. He was the guest in Israel. 

The first thing to note is how repeatedly–and indeed stubbornly (it is hard not to anthropomorphize the machine)–ChatGPT was wrong about what Fiona here calls “basic stuff.” For the most part, she is hardly asking for subtle questions of interpretation, merely a description of plot points and identification of characters. Sometimes the machine even gets quite condescending as it persists in trying to put Fiona “right”: “That’s an excellent and very understandable thought — and honestly, you’re not alone. Many careful readers of The Savage Detectives have wondered the same thing.” Ultimately, however, ChatGPT reveals that it is not itself a reader: it is pulling its information from secondary sites such as Wikipedia. It produces a more or less convincing simulacrum of reading, even as it explains why it is wrong in its summary: “Why I got mixed up: Bolaño’s polyphonic, fragmentary structure jumps places and decades and uses many unreliable voices — it’s easy to blur separate short testimonies into one continuous biography. That’s on me for not checking closely before answering.” But ultimately this is a smokescreen.

The second thing to note is how obsequious ChatGPT is: it aims to please. “That’s a really sharp observation,” it tells Fiona early on. “Excellent question” it replies to another of her prompts. “Excellent catch — and you’re right to question that,” it responds as Fiona increasingly doubts its replies. Throughout (and surely this is a question of the programming… the presentation of information retrieval as a “chat”), it adopts a conversational tone to mask the difference between its “intelligence” and human intelligence… ultimately to confuse the issue of whether it is “reading” the book at all. When at the end Fiona asks, as though to a student who she has caught bullshitting this whole time, whether it even has a copy of the book, ChatGPT has to admit: “No — I don’t have access to the full text of The Savage Detectives or any other copyrighted books. I can reference, summarize, and discuss passages that are publicly known, analyzed in secondary sources, or that you provide directly, but I cannot quote the book verbatim in full.” ChatGPT has not read the book, will not read the book, cannot read the book.

Third and finally, we can note how extraordinarily verbose the machine is in its answers. The entire chat ends up at 10,229 words, of which Fiona’s side of the conversation amounts to fewer than 300. Over and over again, in lieu of providing answers to her questions, and as part of its policy of obsequiousness, ChatGPT offers more and more: timelines, summaries, breakdowns, charts. It wears Fiona down, and she gets increasingly frustrated. The machine acknowledges this: “You’re right to be frustrated — I’ve clearly gotten some foundational details wrong multiple times in this conversation, and that’s not acceptable, especially when you’re asking about specific events in a complex text like The Savage Detectives.” But this doesn’t stop it. “Here’s what’s going on,” it immediately continues.

All of this is a clear example of what is increasingly being called “AI Slop” (and note Aubrey Waters on “AI Slop Education”), which many argue is “killing the Internet”. And in large part it is killing it through sheer volume or verbosity. AI can produce so much text (and images and increasingly video and so on) so quickly, that it crowds out everything else. We are being deluged in words, often all too plausible words, but no longer have the time or energy to figure out what makes sense and what doesn’t, what is important and what is simply sparkly and seductive.

Time perhaps to drop out and read a long book instead?

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Long TV, affect, and mortality

Some thoughts on long TV from another old Harpers article, this time Adam Wilson’s “Good Bad Bad Good: What was the Golden Age of TV?” (vol. 339, no. 2033 [October 2019]:43–53):

One reason that TV shows develop cult followings is that to watch one from beginning to end—NBC’s The Office, say, which ran for nine seasons and over two hundred episodes across eight years—is to spend a significant portion of your life among its characters. You could read To the Lighthouse or watch The Big Lebowski half a dozen times and not come close to approaching those numbers.

In other words, the sheer time spent on a long show leads to a sense of ownership, defensive self-justification: it must have been worth it, if I spent so much time on it!

Similarly, on watching the same actor over an extended period of time:

When we first meet Tony Soprano, in 1999, he is robust and handsome, if not exactly svelte. By the Season 4 finale, some five human years and forty-three TV hours later, Tony looks significantly worse for wear. His marriage is ending, and we watch its death knell. The time we’ve spent with this couple increases our investment. And by the end of the series—by this point we’re eight years and more than seventy hours in—we’ve witnessed Tony and Carmela reconcile, resigned to their chosen lot. Tony—and, by extension, James Gandolfini—is obese now, breathing heavily. (Gandolfini would die of a heart attack six years later, imbuing his performance with the retrospective feel of cinéma vérité.) The series ends with the screen going black on this family unit, waiting for death. It’s been said that the theme of The Sopranos is that people don’t change. What makes it a powerful show is that we feel them not change across those cumulative hours. The felt passage of time runs hauntingly perpendicular to this emotional stasis.

There is a relation, in other words, between duration and affect, both in the sense that temporal investment both comes from and leads to a particular affinity, and because we are made aware of physicality and even mortality: that of the actors and even our own.

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The Book as Prison: Edoardo Albinati’s The Catholic School

Tim Parks’s review for Harpers (vol. 339, no. 2032 [September 2019]: 84–88) of Edoardo Albinati’s The Catholic School refers frequently to the book’s length. After all, even though it managed to scale “the bestseller lists and [win Italy’s] most prestigious literary prize, the Strega,” it is still a “mammoth twelve-hundred-page novel” (85) that is clearly a bit of a slog. 

It is also clear that the novel uses its length to construct suspense and keep the reader waiting. The book is based on a true story, of the so-called “Circeo Rape/Murder”: the 1975 rape and torture of two women, one of whom ended up murdered, at the hands of three young men, two of whom were recent graduates of the “expensive, highly respectable boys-only Catholic school” (84) to which the novel’s title alludes. Most Italian readers would already be aware of this case, and so this “terrible crime [. . .] hangs over the book. And Albinati lets it hang. Not until page 153 does it get a first, brief mention” (85). Everything is laid out very slowly, gradually: “We are at page four hundred,” Parks later reports, “and still no sign of the [Circeo Rape/Murder]. Expectation is winding up.” Frequent digressions further postpone advances in the plot: “Just when you thought he couldn’t delay the arrival of the CR/M any further, the author launches into a long analysis of the transformation of the Italian bourgeoisie in the 1970s. IN this book long means long” (86). Every page, it seems, is an exercise in putting off till later what we know is inevitable.

“Finally,” Parks informs us, “a third of the way into the book, the crime is suddenly center stage. It is told in fourteen terse pages” (86). The brevity and concision of the telling contrast with the extrapolation and length of everything around it. “What now then,” Parks asks, with eight hundred pages still to go? One expects more and more about the CR/M. Intermittently it arrives [. . .]. But the main thrust of the book is now to establish the crime as emblematic of its era” (86–87). It is as though the crime around which the whole book is spun were no longer the main event, but mere symptom of something larger (and lengthier) still.

Parks likens the excessiveness of Albinati’s exposition of Italy’s many ills to an obsession: “Skip if it’s too much, we’re told again. Many will be tempted to do so. [. . .] For pages at a time, the reader longs to get back to the story, any story” (87). It is as though there is something unbearable about being forced to share in and spend time with the author’s (and perhaps also the country’s) anxiety and trauma, crystallized in this one crime and what it says about class, Catholicism, and gendered violence.

Parks finishes his review with the thought that, in part with such a long novel, Albinati is playing with his readers: “I can think of no author who has prompted in me such frequent shifts from admiration to irritation and back; who has aroused so much pleasure with his stories and reflections, and so much annoyance with his emphatic, exaggerated, paradoxical claims, not to mention the sheer length of this interminable book.” But perhaps, Parks continues, he is also alternately educating and punishing us: “it’s hard to feel, as the pages roll by, that this is not absolutely willed on the author’s part. The book itself becomes the reader’s Catholic school, at times a kind of prison where the same concepts are repeated ad infinitum, at times a kind of violence” (88). This is another take on the notion of a book that you “can’t put down.” Here, you are condemned to keep going, as if to serve a sentence (pun intended) for a crime for which you are forced to realize your own complicity.

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Welcome to RMST 495/520!

Welcome!

This is the website for RMST 495/520, Spring 2026. Please note that we will not be using Canvas. Everything you need to know about this course will be here, on this website.

Note also that it is at present a work in progress… I will be adding information and resources here up until the beginning of the semester, and even beyond. Some aspects may change in the interim, so I cannot guarantee that the syllabus, assessment, and so on are fixed until January.

But I am making the website open even as I work on it, to give enrolled and prospective students the best idea possible of what the course will be like.

If you have any questions, feel free to get in touch with me at jon.beasley-murray@ubc.ca.

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