As noted in the previous post, I helped facilitate an open online course called OOE13 (Open Online Experience 13) in 2013 and 2014. In April 2014 I was in charge of the topic of open education for the course, and we had a couple of Twitter chats. This was actually the first one though it is coming second here in my post order.
I’m archiving the tweets here because Storify is going away in a few days. So think of this post as having been here since 2014.
OOE13 Twitter chat on open education, April 9, 2014
Introductions
Please introduce yourself: where you’re from, whether you’re a teacher or somehow otherwise related to education (or not!). #OOE13
— Brendan Murphy ooe13 (@ooe2013) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454061750694842368
Hi, everyone. I'm karen. I'm an advocate for #open + #oer, based out of a very rural corner of AZ. #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454062107135606785
Question 1
Q1 What does open education or open learning mean to you? #OOE13
— Brendan Murphy ooe13 (@ooe2013) April 10, 2014
A1 My idea of what #open means has changed a lot over time. Used to b focused on open licenses + legal nuances… #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454063740241977345
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454063303938310144
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454063621551583232
Open = available without the usual strings attached #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454064134779195392
Sure @clhendricksbc . I've seen that #open lic resources can be used in closed edu models…no connec, no community, lots of walls #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454065235133865984
@clhendricksbc pay, worry about licenses, closed, cannot reuse, etc #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454063744734490624
The sharing part of #open used to be more about giving to me; now it's more about collaborating #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454064289783885824
@kfasimpaur open practice is definitely on the move, collaboration is enabled by openness? #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
@Lenandlar Yes, I think collab is hugely enabled and expanded by openness #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
@clhendricksbc @kfasimpaur Christina, what do you reckon is holding back the collaboration, if any at all? #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
I think that fear + risk adversiveness holds back collab…esp in edu environments when openness is penalized. Big issue. #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454065526864478208
@kfasimpaur Totally agree – fear huge barrier in open. What are all the reasons for fear in open though? #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
@clhendricksbc that is interesting. i wonder if perhaps a more deliberate effort to find things to work on might work? #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454066180261548032
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454066252558790657
@clhendricksbc but i have read awesome work from you i think. guess tipping point soon come? #ooe13.thought about creating a course or so?
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
@clhendricksbc yes that is true. we do a lot more than we account for. i guess we like to count only the very big projects #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454066847302696960
@clhendricksbc @p2pu i have recently had experience with #rhizo14 n helped facilitate #nwoer during open ed week. lovely opps for me #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
@clhendricksbc @p2pu what we did with #nwoer is take the Wiley Open course from p2pu and did it in a week. was great experience #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454064173283295232
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454064454414913536
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454064884070612992
#open learning to me is about really connecting w/others + bldg knowledge + experiences 2gether w/an invitation to any1 else to join #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
Question 2
Q2 In what ways do you participate in open education/open learning, and why? #OOE13
— Brendan Murphy ooe13 (@ooe2013) April 10, 2014
A2 I participate in lots of #open collab + do so because I gain from them. I learn more openly. #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454065641641615360
@ooe2013 A2. i share, curate, have conversations, ask questions, help run online courses,anything that allows me 2 participate openly #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
A2 On a much more trivial level, I'd love to see the K-12 txtbk industry $ be redirected #oer #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454065869669150720
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454066001538482176
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454066379231330304
Over past conference – realized that competition between districts HUGE factor in limiting collaborating – increased fear. Who wins? #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
@verenanz competition for/over what? that is an interesting observation #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454066065211797505
Openness means being exposed…to criticism, to penalties. Lots to fear if u don't see an upside @verenanz #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
@kfasimpaur yes definitely. i believe opening up oneself can be a challenge but i have found it to be empowering, you can do stuff #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
K-12 educ is overrun with fear right now. Not just open, but anything progressive. #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
Also 4 ppl who aren't accustomed to sharing, online, putting themselves "out there," being open is a big change. Change is hard #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
I fear the "pushbacks" as opposed to "feedback" in open environments – I fear my jobs being limited because I state my opinions #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454067122188980225
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454066615835848704
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454066659020779521
@Lenandlar In BC- If U teach in DL school, students can choose "any school". If you collaborate – might lose your students = no job #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
@verenanz that is such a challenge.wonder what needs 2 change for it to work for the better of all #ooe13 case of forcing ppl to be "closed"
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
@verenanz case of forcing ppl to be "closed" how can you change that #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
Re: pushback, there r lots of stories out there about ppl having their livelihoods threatened by putting themselves out there openly #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454067419242176512
@clhendricksbc Pushback for opinions, as well as sometimes for things more specific like content #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
@clhendricksbc For me – Pushback for ideas (challenging system) – Promoting self-directed learning when teachers have no time #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
On the other hand, I think our learning as professionals is much less if we are not open. Need to help others see those benefits. #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
However – even though I see (and live) with criticism/fear of open – Being Open/Sharing/Collaborating is #bestwaytolearn4me #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
Leadership needs to see that not being #open is a disadvantage to both educators and learners. #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
I think that educators who aren't "connected" r at a huge disadvantage. Equity issue really. #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454067523236155392
@dendari Some don't like open because ___?? #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
@verenanz @dendari the open advocate is a challenge in a closed system. it is a radical shift for many #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454067908596219905
Yes, there is a real issue of closed/canned curriculum vs. open (or even just less regimented) #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
Question 3
We’re already talking about Q3: What are some barriers you see to teachers making their teaching materials open for reuse? #OOE13
— Brendan Murphy ooe13 (@ooe2013) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454068218349371392
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454068406182875137
@clhendricksbc Specifically thru an open license or in some other way? (The specifics really matter imo) #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454069107441139714
@clhendricksbc Sometimes ppl get upset b/c they spent a lot of time on things + don't think they're being compensated for redistrib.. #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
It's all in how you present it though. #optin #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454069835761078272
@clhendricksbc Understood. (We "in the movemt" would not consider this "open" 4 what that's worth) #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454070240704335873
@clhendricksbc What copyright to use to make it their own if they make it while being paid by institution asking them to be open? #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
@verenanz @clhendricksbc institutions may vary in their policy on copyrights? or is it always owned by institution #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
Copyright policy varies by institution for the most part. Most K-12 schools in US have no policy which is difficult @Lenandlar #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
In higher ed, there's often an issue of who "owns" the curric materials, but this is less of an issue in K-12 in my experience #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454069968955379712
@kfasimpaur my uni does not yet have a policy. so we can do as we like. which is a double-edged sword since some hide, some share #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
@clhendricksbc @verenanz @dendari when you start to share, you start to shake up the stranglehold ppl tend to have on materials #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
Barrier =When LMS courses already created – and Tchrs may not have skills to remix, recreate – difficult to share? #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454070403468509185
Teachers remix and reuse every day. They just don't call it that. #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendroglyph/status/454070701843312640
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454070936484843520
@dendroglyph @clhendricksbc AND… when I think of some open textbooks/content – hard to remix, easier to link to, so prevents remix #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
@ooe2013 A3. Confidence is definitely one. not sure if their material is good enough #ooe13 also perhaps not always free to share
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454068535736954880
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454070595957686272
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454070815274057729
@dendari I think that all curric requires adjustment for a given group of learners #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454069086797168640
@dendari Lunacy (imo) like pacing + "fidelity" to the txtbk encourages that mindset. I don't think most tchrs buy into that. #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendroglyph/status/454071035823149056
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454071290715185152
http://twitter.com/dendroglyph/status/454071476346703872
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454071730982887424
@dendari @dendroglyph Wikis need a password….Is there an #open continuum ? #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
I definitely think there's a continuum of #open …as there should be. #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendroglyph/status/454073134002745344
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454068954928259072
Way to promote open content with teachers = make mistakes, then they all want to give feedback/edit (First stage to collaboration) #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454069206712340480
@dendari I'm so sneaky! Realized instead of feeling offended when people "edit" my blog posts – encourage MORE feedback! #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
But when I've talked to K-12 schools about #open lic + sharing, I don't think I've ever heard an objection. Educators want to share! #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454071288651210752
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454070086585057280
One component of #open learning is that the ideas of "worthy" or other quality measures really change, I think. @dendari #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454070636718333952
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454071674577502209
http://twitter.com/dendroglyph/status/454072071371653120
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454072331334201344
http://twitter.com/dendroglyph/status/454072509089210368
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454072290637283328
@dendari I have run into those who don't think what they can share has value, and some who don't want to share w/o $ and credit. #ooe13
— Michael Walker (@micwalker) April 10, 2014
Imperfection, failure, risk taking…they're all a part of learning, but one that is not often emphasized in form educ #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
@kfasimpaur So true! And it takes courage to publicly shift your practice; to be a public learner. #ooe13
— Julie Balen (@jacbalen) April 10, 2014
Conference reflection -> Feedback was that I am more about sharing pedagogy than content. I seem to always find content k12 #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
#open is a slippery slope to thinking more about learning and less about content :) @verenanz #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendroglyph/status/454071251083210752
@dendroglyph @kfasimpaur Is the slippery slope the scary part? The fear of rethinking the way and how we learn? Transparency? #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
@verenanz "slippery slope" was sarcasm. :) power structures…. #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendroglyph/status/454070840574115840
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454071864193581056
http://twitter.com/dendroglyph/status/454072221888434176
@dendroglyph I didn't know about http://t.co/jTZlhNq9C6 Thx! #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
i worry about the way our students might interpret knowledge when we lock it up -"as a thing to be had from somewhere" #ooe13 wrong message
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454072546053214209
@clhendricksbc also creates the illusion that learning can only happen when teachers are there, wrong message again #ooe13
— Lenandlar Singh (@Lenandlar) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454073138922283008
We all share and use and love the Internet. There's no better example of #open learning than that. #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
I somehow got blocked..Try again – Reply to @kfasimpaur 's tweet on the Internet is #open – Mozillian Video: https://t.co/Zmx2JlPLxN #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
Late…just got home! Looks like you're having a terrific conversation! #ooe13
— Julie Balen (@jacbalen) April 10, 2014
@jacbalen Welcome, Julie! We’re talking about barriers to sharing tchg/learning pedagogy and resources openly. #OOE13
— Brendan Murphy ooe13 (@ooe2013) April 10, 2014
@eroweedu Yes, relationships! There's a lot of well justified fear in K-12 educ right now imo #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454074304032825344
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454074502268616704
Even I'm sometimes distrustful of sharing. You have to know your audience. #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
A lot of this really is about power structures. #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendroglyph/status/454073402907971584
unless you feel disempowered, not worthy, etc. @dendroglyph #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454075546717016064
@clhendricksbc No – but that's a good question. I will send/email to others to ask for support (DM) #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
I think that a culture that prompts anonymous sharing as a protective measure is a really sad state. @clhendricksbc #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454076175648714752
http://twitter.com/dendroglyph/status/454076497780047873
https://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454077278272491520
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454073456465039361
@dendari I've given students an option to cc license (needs to be informed and a choice imo) #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
Students *love* these intellectual property discussions… pretty interesting how engaged they r in the issues #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454073937861672960
Yes! On their blogs & ind creations. RT @dendari: Do you ever ask your students to add a cc license to their own work? #ooe13
— Julie Balen (@jacbalen) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454074986987139072
@clhendricksbc Yes. I want them to begin to think about their options. What do they think about others using their work? Super convos #ooe13
— Julie Balen (@jacbalen) April 10, 2014
Me too> Yes! On their blogs & ind creations. RT @dendari: Do u ever ask ur students to add a cc license to their own work? #ooe13 @jacbalen
— NOELINEL (@NoelineL) April 10, 2014
Question 4
Q4: What ethical or privacy concerns come up when thinking about open education or open learning? #OOE13
— Brendan Murphy ooe13 (@ooe2013) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454073678075297793
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454074118548119552
Question 5
We’re low on time but I’m really interested in: Q5 How might you convince a reluctant colleague 2 be more "open" in their tchg/lrng? #OOE13
— Brendan Murphy ooe13 (@ooe2013) April 10, 2014
A5 Model, show the benefits, allow multiple paths, don't push too hard… focus on relationships + community #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454075291124506624
And have patience! MT @kfasimpaur: A5 Model, show benefits, allow multiple paths, don't push too hard; focus on relationships + comm #ooe13
— Julie Balen (@jacbalen) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454075186699333632
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454075480929734657
A5: Promote Open Attitude: Small steps towards a bigger world, turn 2 PLN when you get pushback, persevere and fail/succeed openly #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/clhendricksbc/status/454076035361808384
A5 Show them this: https://t.co/08FRdCUxZj #OOE13
— Michael Walker (@micwalker) April 10, 2014
#OOE13 We’re out of time… Thanks for a really stimulating chat!
— Brendan Murphy ooe13 (@ooe2013) April 10, 2014
Great conversation, everyone. Thanks! #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
@ooe2013 Thanks for your amazing facilitation and support….:) #ooe13
— Dr. Verena Roberts (@verenanz) April 10, 2014
http://twitter.com/dendari/status/454076551601348608
Hope u all can join the webinar at this same time nxt week. Msg me w/any topic suggestions or requests! #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
#OOE13 Please join us in one week, April 16, 6pm Pacific/9 Eastern for presentation by @kfasimpaur https://t.co/uVSW8bBwfN
— Brendan Murphy ooe13 (@ooe2013) April 10, 2014
You can also make requests for what you’d like to discuss at @kfasimpaur ’s presentation at the G+ event page https://t.co/uVSW8bBwfN #OOE13
— Brendan Murphy ooe13 (@ooe2013) April 10, 2014
A1(cont) Now it's more about transparency, sharing, + a diff kind of learning process #ooe13
— Karen Fasimpaur (@kfasimpaur) April 10, 2014
