I’m archiving some Storify stories, since Storify is going away May 16 and deleting all content. I am following Alan Levine’s very helpful process and using his link extractor tool discussed towards the end of that post.
What I can’t easily figure out is where on this site I already have Storify embeds that are going to disappear. I tried to do a search for “storify” through the search function, but that probably only works if I actually say “storify” in the post. Which I don’t know if I did for each of those.
So, until I find posts where these Storify stories are, I’m going to create new posts so I at least have the tweet links in one place! Then hopefully later I can find where I put the darn things here on my blog. (Thanks a lot, Storify, for making our desire to archive really, really hard).
Tweets about open pedagogy & OEP
In 2017 I asked some folks on Twitter about how they see the difference between open pedagogy and open educational practices. Here is what they said!
Trying to parse differences btw #openpedagogy and open edu practices #OEP. Any thoughts on that? Two names for similar things? #OER #OpenPed
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 14, 2017
I lean towards no, but w/overlap. I think #OEP includes adoption of #OER, even as a mere direct swap for a comm. text, with no #openpedagogy
— Rajiv Jhangiani (@thatpsychprof) October 14, 2017
Yes, I think I get this.
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 14, 2017
Of course, you can have #openpedagogy w/o #OER!
— Rajiv Jhangiani (@thatpsychprof) October 14, 2017
Smallest category probably #OEReP, which I think falls within the overlap of #openpedagogy and #OEP
— Rajiv Jhangiani (@thatpsychprof) October 14, 2017
Ok, OERep is something that came out of open ped discussion earlier this year, and is Wiley’s view? Is that it?
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 14, 2017
Yes, although I think I just invented that hashtag. #OEReP = OER-enabled pedagogy, as per Wiley here: https://t.co/qt0sWFNTNK
— Rajiv Jhangiani (@thatpsychprof) October 14, 2017
I should add that, as you well know, this is ground that is shifting & being contested, so I am open to other takes (and to changing mine!)
— Rajiv Jhangiani (@thatpsychprof) October 14, 2017
Work in progress – Open Educational Practice Proposal @clhendricksbc Image on page – add Digi Lit to big circle https://t.co/6eslHS3VRO
— Verena Roberts (@verenanz) October 14, 2017
Oh this is really helpful! Thanks for pointing me to it!
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 14, 2017
OE practice dependant upon action of educator, OE pedagogy dependant upon intended action?
— Verena Roberts (@verenanz) October 14, 2017
This is intriguing…can you explain a bit more? not sure I get it.
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 14, 2017
Well, I have been thinking about the mindset aspect of openness – that's the pedagogy part
— Verena Roberts (@verenanz) October 14, 2017
Then the practice is how you as an educator choose to demonstrate evidence of an open mindset
— Verena Roberts (@verenanz) October 14, 2017
It's a work in progress – each indicator is based on actual research, see next blog for next steps … it's just the beginning
— Verena Roberts (@verenanz) October 14, 2017
Like you – I am looking for clarity around OEPed/ OEPrac AND why learning in the open is a good thing, cuz it is, I want prove it …
— Verena Roberts (@verenanz) October 14, 2017
@catherinecronin also suggested Czerniewicz, Deacon, Glover & Walji (2017) MOOC : making & open ed practices Good read!!!
— Verena Roberts (@verenanz) October 14, 2017
I’m excited you’re doing this research project!
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 14, 2017
Well – I need all the help I can get. :) #workinprogress
— Verena Roberts (@verenanz) October 14, 2017
To me, open pedagogy means involving students (formal or informal) whereas open practice can be with peers. Either can include OERs. IMHO!
— amber thomas (@ambrouk) October 15, 2017
Yes, this is what I was thinking too.
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 15, 2017
But also these terms emerged out of a burst of web-enabled practices and people describing these rich practices … Not strict categories…
— amber thomas (@ambrouk) October 15, 2017
… and if people get their knickers in a twist about the descriptors they are missing the point. IM(not so)HO
— amber thomas (@ambrouk) October 15, 2017
you can have #OEP without #openped and #OER … say, chatting with u on Twitter. Is this not #OEP? I’m learning from u thru conversation
— Penny Bentley (@penpln) October 15, 2017
Yes, that makes sense to me!
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 15, 2017
If ped covers what teacher does to influence learning in others is #openped subset of #OEP. Tchrs learning #OpenPL another subset #OEP?
— Penny Bentley (@penpln) October 15, 2017
What is OpenPL?
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 15, 2017
Open professional learning #OpenPL
— Penny Bentley (@penpln) October 15, 2017
I’ve been researching the PL of teachers through #OpenEd which I call #OpenPL
— Penny Bentley (@penpln) October 15, 2017
Ah, got it. Thanks! And thank you for your thoughts here. Adding to this tweet list: https://t.co/MPlbZAArXT
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 15, 2017
I see information more broadly as the ingredient of #OEP rather than #OER only. I learn heaps from people thru conversation #SelfOER ….
— Penny Bentley (@penpln) October 15, 2017
Ideas add value to #OER , thats the magic of #remix #creativity #LearningDesign
— Penny Bentley (@penpln) October 15, 2017
So, how teachers do PL with OER? Or in what other ways OpenPL? Like discussions in the open, sharing blog reflections, etc?
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 15, 2017
I asked tchrs re their experiences of learning (about STEM edu) on the open Web. Language of #OER #OEP rarely, if at all, used ….
— Penny Bentley (@penpln) October 15, 2017
…blogging, tweeting, sharing resources, participating, lurking, improving designs re making, personal transformation etc..
— Penny Bentley (@penpln) October 15, 2017
…it’s all there, just not framed in the language we use :)
— Penny Bentley (@penpln) October 15, 2017
Attributes of Open Pedagogy: A Model for Using Open Educational Resources (PDF Download Available)@clhendricksbc https://t.co/QExxspbUiA
— Verena Roberts (@verenanz) October 15, 2017
Pls Add this 2 Storify @clhendricksbc & Part 2 podcasts https://t.co/ys1AGy92f0 and maybe videos? & https://t.co/XHMciEIG1g #opened #OEP https://t.co/nkcgR2c9Zf
— Verena Roberts (@verenanz) October 15, 2017
@clhendricksbc more for you to ponder…. https://t.co/XHMciEIG1g
— Verena Roberts (@verenanz) October 15, 2017
@clhendricksbc and #OKP from @xolotl https://t.co/Q8tiGKQeJI
— Verena Roberts (@verenanz) October 15, 2017
@clhendricksbc from 2012 with open education at the centre: Creative Classrooms https://t.co/W5IH9OIwMi Check out source/references #oep
— Verena Roberts (@verenanz) October 16, 2017
Open learning had a Benjamin / Friere like structure from the 50s till the 70s. Was then replaced by open as access, then open as OER
— patlockley (@patlockley) October 15, 2017
I think I get the Benjamin/Friere structure thing but can you elaborate a bit on what that means? The history is interesting.
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 16, 2017
Students's having a greater (typically equal) say in their education as their 'teachers'. The simplest statement was 'to leave pupils happy'
— patlockley (@patlockley) October 16, 2017
I'd doubt it's the same history as current open, as there are 'gaps' in the family tree
— patlockley (@patlockley) October 16, 2017
I think you’re right that family tree isn’t exactly the same, but I’m interested in how similar some thoughts were then & now re: open edu.
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 17, 2017
I'd argue they aren't similar, because they came from different places to significantly different conclusions, that merely look the same
— patlockley (@patlockley) October 17, 2017
Interesting—I’d like to hear more about how the conclusions just look the same but aren’t!
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 17, 2017
Open as a public good versus open as an anarchic copyright anomie. A commons without commonality (Berry, David)
— patlockley (@patlockley) October 17, 2017
Neoliberal disavowment versus socialism
— patlockley (@patlockley) October 17, 2017
The former as the later version of open, socialism as earlier?
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 18, 2017
Yes
— patlockley (@patlockley) October 18, 2017
Hence the perpetual 'open as breakthrough' moments – if can convince people of scale then it seems collective
— patlockley (@patlockley) October 17, 2017
See variations on obamacare, gerrymandering
— patlockley (@patlockley) October 17, 2017
A number of ppl do seem to want to connect current open ed stuff to public good I think, but maybe not so much commons.
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 18, 2017
A public good but individually managed seems contradictory -tragedy of the commons and all. Compare to GPL
— patlockley (@patlockley) October 18, 2017
Yes, this makes sense. I’ve been doing a bit of digging into the history of “open education” & “open schools” and such. interesting stuff.
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 19, 2017
I do see these as closely interlinked but like suggestions of #openpedagogy as a form of #OEP specifically in teaching / learning design.
— Leo Havemann (@leohavemann) October 16, 2017
My take on #OEP is as inclusive of but wider than 'OER practices', see https://t.co/kb1UK4FsXg
— Leo Havemann (@leohavemann) October 16, 2017
Thanks for the link—wasn’t aware of this! Without looking at it yet but just tweets here I think I agree with you!
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 17, 2017
At the core – can anyone claim ownership of 'open' or must we have fairly 'open' definitions? V interested in your thoughts as they develop!
— Leo Havemann (@leohavemann) October 16, 2017
Yeah, probably open defins. Mostly I’m trying to collate what others have said rather than laying down rule. As a thought provoking exercise
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 17, 2017
#OER, #OEP, Open Education, Open Pedagogy… there are so many movements, but not enough movement @clhendricksbc @leohavemann https://t.co/4GHTdK7b23
— J Dawn Marsh (@JDawnMarsh) October 17, 2017
I think I can see that—more time spent doing than talking, maybe?
— Christina Hendricks (@clhendricksbc) October 18, 2017
a useful discussion, Christina. #OEP is inclusive of #openpedagogy – I blogged a bit about it here: https://t.co/nbwO5XfeUE https://t.co/kN1J9tBBib
— Catherine Cronin (@catherinecronin) October 16, 2017
delighted to come across this tweet & your blog post, Christina – better late than never :) I'm writing more about this at the moment…
— Catherine Cronin (@catherinecronin) October 16, 2017
will keep blogging/talking/writing… I'm inspired by how many are engaged with this important work. thanks!
— Catherine Cronin (@catherinecronin) October 16, 2017
